10 Thoughts on Oklahoma State's 19-12 Loss to Tulsa

Who would anyone choose as the interim? Meachem? Grantham? Not likely. Gundy retire? Not with his ego or how he feels about the BOR. He loves OSU, that is no doubt, but his fighting with the Admin goes back years. IMO, the problem is everyone. The BOR are attempting to impose their will on the daily operations. Bad move. I don’t know the details of the issue with Dr. Shrum and Chad Weiberg. I can only go by what has been reported, which isn’t much. The BOR didn’t agree with her vision for the university. She didn’t follow all the rules. She’s gone, their guy is in place (without a search for the best person). Weibergs contract is expired and will be handled when appropriate??? That tells me he is gone sometime soon. The new vet facilities. Sorely needed but so are revenue generating improvements. It’s a dumpster fire and no one knows how to or cares to put it out.

Right, need to make sure programs like Tulsa don’t get a NIL advantage on us, right?

Hey champ,

I don’t know what you’re talking about, but the indecision, bad hirings, and public infighting doesn’t make this job very attractive. I would need a lot of reassurances about the stability of the program. What’s the over/under on how long the next coach lasts? 2.5 years? Maybe 3.5. This is a going to be a big rebuild with uncertainty at top.

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I contend we’ve been functioning quite a while now without part of that finger and we’re now just numb.

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We have lived through the golden age of OSU football. It will not happen again. Boone kept Gundy accountable. When he died, so did that accountability, because the administration is too weak and risk averse to make necessary changes. The result is an epic collapse of the program. At the same time, the NIL era leaves OSU unable to compete for top talent without a wealthy alumni base. Best case, Gundy steps down and we rebuild to the point of being bowl eligible most seasons. At one time, we were in position to make the jump to a top tier program, but the bad decisions made at the AD/administration level pissed it away.

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So you’re admitting I was right when I said I didn’t think these hires were appropriate?

If the next coach is winning the conference and maybe getting to the CFP then what does it matter to you? Even a long tenured coach is currently proving to you he can’t do either one in a conference with no BB schools. Hell, he can’t even win a conference game or beat Tulsa.

You’re so worried about a long tenured coach while at the same time ignoring the one man who’s been the common denominator in OSU football for the last 20+ years.

If can’t see Gundy was a major part of not making jump you’re blind. I do blame the AD/administration for not moving on from Gundy at the end of the 2013 season.

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For me it was definitely after the 2017 season when he returned 16 starters and finished 3rd in the conference while getting his a55 handed to him by an average K State team in Stillwater. Then demanding a pay raise for not meeting expectations.

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Hey champ,

No. Not unless you think the board was hiring assistant coaches. Also, quit contradicting yourself. You were talking about how intelligent and tough these board members were last year when they were supposedly doing what you wanted.

See, this is the level of delulu you’re in right now. You think I mean the next coach is going to kill it and get hired away. No. That’s not what I meant with “the program is in chaos”. He’s probably going to fail. I hope not, but things are not good in the state of Stilly. Maybe he has a couple middling seasons. You think the program is going in a good direction and things are going to get drastically better with a new coach.

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Klieman, Dillingham, and Aranda both won the conference within 4 years after being hired. What guarantee do you have the next guy at OSU would fail with likewise programs in comparison? I just watched Gundy get owned by a 36 year old coach with an overall 28-27 record in just his fourth game as a D1 coach. Please convince me how much worse it can possibly get? You’re one of the last people that should be calling anyone delusional.

Hey champ,

Man… why am I repeating myself because you can’t read? Because the administration is in shambles right now. Who is our president going to be? Who is our AD going to be? Do you trust the board to hire those positions because they had to go fire the last ones they hired. You’re like, “let’s just stick a coach in here and he’ll win the conference”. Why? What structure at this school makes you think we’re going to be successful? Who is going to convince the donors to pay $15 million to get rid of Gundy AND THEN hey, we need to really open the wallets to fund NIL for the new coach? You literally can’t answer that because we don’t know who the AD is going to be. Hess got appointed permanently, but is he just keeping the seat warm for Kevin Stitt as the rumor mill says? Given all of that, why would anyone want to take this job? You think Zac Robinson wants to come here and deal with that in addition to the stresses of college coaching vs. pro coaching?

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Gundy was a major part of the problem, but it was up to the AD/administration to do something about that.

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Soooo… we’re F***ed?!… so gkad the man that built this program back over 15 years, has buried it in only 3… SO GLAD we listened to you Gundy Homers and didn’t FIRE :fire: him last season!!. This could stunt our football program for a decade or more… we look TERRIBLE

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BINGO…

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Perhaps I misinterpreted your post… from what I’ve read, amid the innuendo and secrecy, IMEO, Shrum got a raw deal.

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Just hope the powes that be are moving on a trajectory that will minimize the long term harm and set in place a framework similar to other major programs that have hired one person to address football and a regular ceo (AD) for the rest of the athletic program - can’t recall those that mentioned that but sure makes sense.

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Hey champ,

Yeah, the board took a straw poll and that’s why they kept Gundy. They wanted to fire him, but they were powerless in the face of Dave from Sand Springs.

Yes, definitely the fault of one man. Couldn’t be more reasonable.

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How?

Why do Inhave to keep repeating myself? Who’s been the common denominator for OSU football since 2005? Was everything in shambles in previous years? How about you try to stop blaming anything and everything for Gundy’s obvious failures?

The question is why won’t they fund NIL while Gundy is here? It’s because they already witnessed what happened when Boone gave him money. He pissed it away :+1:. Why would NIL and the administration be an issue when you just lost to Tulsa and a 36 year old coach? Why would money be an issue when it clearly wasn’t previous to NIL? Yours the type that finds any excuse to not admit you’ve been wrong.

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How? She funneled $40+ million dollars of taxpayer money to organizations she and her husband controlled. All while doing her Covid nazi doctor bit. She is the most disgraceful hire in Oklahoma state history, and should never have been considered for anything other than parking lot cashier. She was not given a “raw deal”, she gave everyone who actually appreciates this school and state a giant middle finger. Honestly she should be in prison for fraud.

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