10 Thoughts on Oklahoma State's 42-20 Loss to Kansas State

Like all old men, I love to watch a train and the Gundy sucks train is coming full force.

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Not sure RE Mason, but I knew he was gonna be a bu$t! Gleason was recruited by Rutgers HC Shiano to return home then got the boot after 2 seasons I think it was.

He probably wanted Brandon Weeden to redshirt back in the day when he thought Alex Cate was gonna be special. :sob:

Say it LOUDER for the Gumby lovers!

@taishan It won’t be Gunnar, he won’t even call Mike back, hah hah.

Heard today from a couple starting WRs, they are tired of Bowman. They said - he panics, misses guys, and is cocky. This was a surprise to me.

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Hey “Champ”,

Just a thought, being intellectually dishonest isn’t as attractive as you think it is…

Stay blessed.

Hey champ,

Dishonest?

You don’t like restaurant, you complain. Restaurant doesn’t change. You stop going.

You don’t like car, you complain. Car doesn’t change. You stop buying those cars.

You don’t like football team, you complain. Football team doesn’t change. You keep religiously watching team, going to games, buying the merchandise, driving traffic at fansites and have the audacity to take umbrage that anyone else “supports” the team in some magic way that you aren’t?

Yeah I’m the intellectually dishonest one. Well, I guess you’d have to be capable of reasoning this out to be intellectually dishonest. You’re just clueless. The person who says they still support the team and keeps watching is the one whose actions match their words.

Gleeson’s departure was the same time Dunn was promoted to be OC because they didn’t want to lose his recruiting. It feels like Gundy chose Dunn over Gleeson or told Gleeson that Dunn would be a co-OC or something and Gleeson wasn’t ok with it. Not saying Schiano didn’t also recruit him, but maybe Gleeson was open to leaving or had his agent putting his feelers out.

All that to say, I wonder if he was encouraged to leave and found a landing spot. It doesn’t feel like Gundy’s out to shame his staff when he lets them go and tries to let them exit gracefully. That’s just the vibe I get.

Maybe, but didn’t seem like D-line coach and oSu alum Greg Richmond got the same treatment. Got let go late so no chance to find another job…

He was told months before it became public.

I have some very close sources that say the QB room, overall, is not very good. People want to see Flores (and I do, too), but he is not ready. I don’t know if he’d be worse than Bowman or Rangel, but he’s no better. The best pure QB at OSU is Maealiuaki Smith, but he’s a true freshman and we all know how Gundy feels about freshmen quarterbacks. Plus, he needs more time to bulk up (he’s listed at 6’ 4" and 185, but probably is closer to 175–that’s pretty underweight to be able to take a sack at this level.

Again, not having quality players and depth is on the coaches, particularly the offensive coordinator and the QB coach. There is no justification for Bowman starting two years at OSU. They should’ve went and found a better player in the portal to give the youngsters time to grow. That is 100% on the coaching staff, including Gundy.

Not sure about Flores either and agree on Smith. Smith looks like the best QB recruit since SS. I heard from a coach on the staff that this QB fiasco was pure daddy ball and was setup by not recruiting over Gunner Gundy.

I didn’t even scan your retort.

But, from your butt hurt tone, you’re likely delusional as well.

He’s not ready? Is Bowman? Is Rangel? We’ve seen what those two can do, not impressed. Some guys play better than they practice. Flores should get a start and play until the bed is full of poop like they’ve done for Bowedunder a couple of times this season already!

Hey champ,

How do you know my tone if you didn’t even scan my response? Are you psychic? Do you collect meditation crystals? Can you tell me this week’s Powerball numbers.

No, you got ranked, knew it, and pretended you didn’t see it to act like you were above it.