In 1988 OSU finished 11th in the AP. In 1945 we won a NCAA Championship in basketball. Claiming a national title 70 years after it happened IS weak but 5th is better than 11th and there was no baseball in ‘45. So according to the AP it’s not close, 1945 wins.
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Agreed. I don’t see how going undefeated in football and winning a national title in basketball in the same year can be overridden by 1988. Florida is the only other school outside OSU to do this in the same season.
The Brent Parker drop was only a thing because of the bogus 15 yard penalty call against Garrett Limbrick for rough language.
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We did not win a national championship in 1945 in football. Can you even name the committee who post ceremonial awarded us the trophy in 2015, without googling it?
Again it wasn’t just Barry Sanders in 1988.
It was Robin Ventura, John Smith, EJ Phister, Monty Farris, etc
Go ahead believe we won the NC in 1945. The coach never knew about and neither did most of the players and fans from that era. Think about that, they never even knew about their fictional title.
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I don’t know. It’s sitting in Stillwater right now. Is that reality or fiction? Are you one of those whackos that believes if it doesn’t align with your truth it must not be true?
You still don’t understand the question. The coaches, players and fans from that era were dead when it was announced. How do you not understand that. Army has the original trophy from 1945 sitting in their display case. We have a fabricated trophy made 70 years later. Ours is counterfeit.
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And? How does that matter in comparison? Just because most people from 1988 are still alive to remember those days nullifies the ones who aren’t from 1945? I’m sure if they were alive, they would’ve said the exact same thing most on here are saying about 1988.
The trophy is still real along with “1945 National Champions” listed inside BPS as well. You can call it fabricated and counterfeit. It still doesn’t change the fact that it’s real material that’s recognized by the school and committee. If most felt so strongly that it wasn’t. Then we would’ve never pursued either one.
The only other school to be recognized for winning a national title in the two largest sports in the same calendar sports year was Florida. I think it’s delusional to not consider how impressive that is if you think about it.
A committee….and what committee was that again? It’s not AP, it’s not UPI, it’s nothing. You are so desperate for a National Title, that you dream them up. We could start our own committee on PFB and we could start handing out titles and awards and trophies. We could give Bob Fenimore the Heisman in 1945….oh wait he’s dead…wouldn’t be much of an acceptance speech.
As far as it being real, sure there is physical trophy at OSU, but whenever any credentialed media group like ESPN or AP lists past winners, Oklahoma St is never mentioned. Army won the NC in 1945. Do you think at West Point, they took the trophy out of its case and melted it down to make bullet casings? Or just mothballed it because of the supposed controversy.
Think of it this way, what if the roles were reversed? Say OSU won the AP in 1945 and then 70 years later a committee voted that Army should have won it. Would OSU relinquish the title. Of course not. Would any fans just say “well we really didn’t win it”
Would any players or coaches from that era, if they were even alive say they didn’t win it. Of course not.
Saying we won a NC in football in 1945 is make believe. But I guess most of your life is that way.
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I’m desperate for a National Title? I’m constantly saying how you need to be able to consistently win your own conference first before even talking about a national title.
You can’t say that we did or we didn’t. Because obviously there was no BCS system that existed. I’m not saying Army didn’t win the national title. I’m also not saying OSU should’ve been named National Champions 70 years later. I’m simply just stating the facts of what happened. Split National Titles still existed during this time as well. In fact, Michigan and Nebraska were both considered national champions in 1997:
Yes Michigan and Nebraska had a split title in 1997. One won the AP and the other won the coaches. It was decided the next day when the polls came out. Both pols were trusted and credited groups. But no let’s wait until 2067 to award that title by a committee no one has heard of.
I formed my own committee and have made some changes to NCAA.
I awarded the Heisman to Bob Fenimore in 1945. Then I gave one to Terry Miller in 1977. Ernest Anderson in 1982. Then I gave one to GeraldHudson in 1990 for leading the NCAA in rushing. I awarded RW McQuarters one in 1997. Then Rashaun Woods in 2002. I had Weeden and Blackmon split the Heisman in 2011, just had them cut it in half. Gave one to Chuba Hubbard. Then I gave Ollie Gordon the award in 2023. So Oklahoma St has 10 Heismans. Isn’t that cool. Next, I’ll file out some conference titles and sprinkle in some NCs as well. Maybe I’ll win the lottery…
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I could see if you wanted to do that from 2011-2016 in the Big 12. A little difficult to do it when the Big 12 has had a championship game in all the other years. If you decided to carve out 2021 and give OSU a Big 12 champion trophy for simply finishing 1st during the season I’m sure Michael13 would appreciate it 
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That’s the way champions have been won for a hundred years jackass before they dreamed up championship Saturday to bring more bucks. Didn’t matter if you went through a tough season and WON it outright. Yea tell me who’s the champion. You can’t leave well enough alone can you. I’m surprised you didn’t manage to throw a few Gundys in there. You’re just a total wack job looking to argue. Go pay Marshall
AFCA, so you’ve never heard of the coaches poll? BTW the committee was made up of coaches. (Imagine that)
I don’t count it but if some of the players kids and grandkids appreciate the recognition, I don’t mind that at all.
The only reason they weren’t considered for the national champions is lack of competition but everyone on here wants to brag about Gundy’s 10 win seasons while he was hiding from competition.
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Tell me where the 2021 Conference trophy is sitting? That’ll tell you who the Champions are . It doesn’t matter what’s happened for hundreds of years. That has no relevance to the fact that Baylor won the conference in the one game that mattered for it.
