Originally published at: https://pistolsfiringblog.com/mike-boynton-says-hell-support-cade-cunninghams-decision-100-percent/
Despite NCAA sanctions, Boynton has his players’ best interests at heart.
Holder should sign this man to a 10yr contract at least.
We have lightning in a bottle with Boynton. I don’t know that he is the greatest strategist in the big 12, but I believe he’s the greatest leader and has done nothing but impress the hell out of me with his integrity.
I’ll travel to Stillwater this season to support him, and I don’t care if he starts 5 walk-ons.
This NCAA post season ban wouldn’t have happened if we weren’t hauling in Cade and company.
And I’m proud of Boynton and his response when he absolutely got shafted for an unbelievable amount of hard work to get such highly touted players to Stillwater.
He will get us there… the right way.
Go Pokes!
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I completely agree with you. I hope we can unite as a fan base around a man that represents the university in the way that boynton does.
Once the appeal is officially filed how long before it is heard? How long before a ruling will be issued on the appeal? While it is being appealed is the sentence handed down still in effect?
Mike Boynton seems like a nice guy, and I wanted him to succeed. But why does PFB refuse to acknowledge that his 3 year tenure has been nothing short of a complete failure? His teams have gotten worse each year, there has been zero player development, and every team was riddled with disciplinary issues. He signed one elite player but had to give up an assistant coach spot to get him. He has whiffed on every other elite prospect he chased. In his first two recruiting classes, the most impressive player (Boone) averaged 4 points per game.
I am also skeptical that Cunningham would have been the savior PFB bills him as. KD, Trae Young, and Michael Beasley did nothing for the long term trajectory of Texas, OU, and KState (with much better coaches than MB).
If Gundy had a three year run like Boynton has, PFB would would run articles every other day calling for his job. Good coaches do not need four years to turn around a basketball program. Chris Beard took over a dumpster fire at Tech and went to the Elite 8 in year 2 and played for an NC in year 3. Boynton is not even close to turning this program around. Every shred of objective evidence suggests that he is a poor coach, but PFB refuses to even acknowledge that as a possibility.
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Time to file suit against the NCAA. Their rulings are arbitrary and capricious. Watch what happens to Kansas. The NCAA protects blue bloods and lays waste to everyone else. It is time to go on the offense. Look at the potential revenue we will lose and sue for 10 times that. Their only true desire is to retain their grip on the finances of college athletics.
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The lawsuit needs to be huge!!! There is no way an organization like the NCAA should have this much control over a teams future, and be so inconsistent with their rulings.
If this penalty is a base for what will happen to Kansas and Arizona, they will have really stiff penalties. Neither one cooperated and some really bad s*** against them. We will see
I don’t expect their ruling against us when it’s court time to stand up Total BS what they threw down !!
I still feel the NCAA has bias against us from the Andy Oliver case which he won… the worst of the penalties are no tournament and loss one one scholarship for three years
Thank you Travis1 for your post on coach Boynton and his unimpressive start at OSU to date. It’s time to coach your butt off and get thru this obstacle with or without Cade. It’s a one year ban on postseason, move forward and make a negative a positive. If this recruiting class is as good as advertised then move forward and much stronger! The next 3 yrs will define you a coach, leader and developer of talent. Let’s get it done!!
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This is … not unfair? I don’t think his teams have gotten worse each year though. Year 1 they were all right. Year 2 was always going to be the bad year. Year 3 was better than Year 2 but should have probably been better than Year 1.
Also, I don’t think you are properly understanding how good Cade is. Generationally great. Vince Young-like.
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I appreciate your opinion and I believe Cade would make an immediate impact. I’m sorry but his teams have regressed from season 1 thru season 3. He’s made recruiting mistakes that put his teams in tough spots. This year class looks really good on paper, but so did his classes in year 2 and 3 until character issues reared their ugly head. The 0-8 start in league play last year was troublesome. The team recovered to play better in the last 10. Teams that are coached by good coaches don’t go 0-8 to start the league. I hope that coach MB overcomes this latest obstacle and finds success.
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Thank you for the response. I absolutely understand how good Cade Cunningham is. That is why I compared him to Kevin Durant, one of the top 20 basketball players ever and Tre Young, the best basketball player to play for an Oklahoma school since I started watching in the late 90s. Those two combined for one NCAA Tournament win. Cade Cunningham may well be the #1 pick in the next draft. However, in the last 10 years, there have been four top picks who played for a non-Hall of Fame college coach. Those four players combined for zero NCAA Tournament wins. There is very little, if any, precedent for a one-and-done player changing the long term trajectory of a college program/coach. I am not saying it could not have happened, but I cannot find any example of it ever happening before?
You guys are so full of hot takes on Mike Gundy’s offseason pressers but then have nothing to say about whether Mike Boynton is actually a good coach. It seems odd. How about comparing Boynton’s record to Travis Ford’s record? How about grading Boynton’s performance across metics like recruiting, player development, in-game strategy, and program management? How about challenging the narrative that Boynton is a great recruiter? IMO, the evidence does not reflect that. I believe Travis Ford was actually a better recruiter. How about asking whether any Big XII coach since 1997 has ever missed his first three NCAA Tournaments and not gotten fired? Scott Drew is the only one I can find.
There is a huge story here. This post season ban could very well be the beginning of the end of Boynton’s tenure at OSU and all I can find on here are glowing articles about how he supports his players and says good things to the media. That is great I guess, but where is the actual coverage?
Harry Miller, Dave Bliss, Scott drew, Jim woolridge, Tom Asbury, Neil Dougherty, Jim Christian, Trent Johnson, Barry Collier, doc Sadler, Tony barone, Melvin Watkins.
With Drew being the exception, it appears that each of those coaches was eventually fired or resigned under pressure.
But not after 3 seasons.
Correct. Thank you for helping me make the point I was trying to get across. The point I was trying to make is that while we all hope Mike Boynton can turn things around, that hope is really not realistic (and good coverage would point that out). Based on precedent, it appears far more likely that MB will eventually be fired.
There is little, if any, precedent for a coach taking over a program that was routinely making the Tournament (6/9 prior years), missing the Tournament for his first three years and then magically turning things around.
Most coaches will eventually be fired. That’s not news.
We hired a young coach hoping he would develop. It seems like he is. Maybe it won’t work out for us. I’m choosing to be positive.
MB faced a major makeover when he took over. Late for his first recruiting year, there were two that de committed after the coaching change. He was scrambling for players, grad transfers and juco… this is his first year to build relationships with kids to play. My only complaint with MB is changing his offense too late after 8 losses. They changed and were above.500… I really thought this would be his break out year, now I’m not so sure if the post year ban isn’t lifted