Thats is you
I said if i ask a question. You think my question is tryi g to prove something and i believe the question is calling you out. It is but not in they way you think. Your anal
Especially anal with ou.
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What do you consider āa big enough bag?ā Do you think OSU is giving him a bag of any kind right now? If so, do you think OSU/Gundy is even entertaining a bidding war for any kid?
Honest discussion
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āAnal about OUā. Dude Iāve been critical, realistic, honest about OU more than most youāll find. Iāve had discussions with several posters on here in which Iām honest about OU. You just arenāt one of āem because all you do is try to fight. You donāt read. You donāt comprehend it. Your default setting is to just fight.
I asked you for the 3rd time nowā¦ā¦what does Penix being left handed have to do with his draft stock?
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First off if you dnt know what a left hand qb is questioned about i cant help you. Im sure you were a left headed second basemen.
Ive seen you carry on arguements for weeks. In the end you say the samething about the other person.
You have never said a bad thing about your ad and will not let anyone say a bad thing.
You think stoops and riley are great coaches. Rite? Thats a bad take by you.
I also know you dnt own a mirror.
So you didnāt answer the question. Iāve asked now 4 times. What does Penix being left handed have to do with his draft stock? JUST ANSWER THAT
What do I have negative to say about Joe Castiglione? Heās as good an AD as youāll find. Heās made a bad hire at times (Caple, got some egg on his face with Gene Stephenson. The Mixon deal at the time was a questionable move). But his track record is overwhelmingly impressive.
If you donāt think Bob Stoops was a great coach, then I canāt help you. What he did in Norman at that time, was a major accomplishment. He also stayed loyal at times when he couldāve left. He came in & busted his butt once Lincoln left overnight. Bob Stoops was a great hire that still benefits OU.
Riley. I actually give you credit. You said he wasnāt any good. Now, even though you say that about everything involving OU because youāre incapable of having a legitimate discussion, you absolutely look TODAY like you could be onto something. I will say that Riley has been there 2 years and had one extremely successful and one bad one. I still think his body of work leans much more into the āgreatā than āhe sucksā category, but Iām giving you credit for what went on at USC this year. See, thatās the difference. I can see what the facts are and be honest about em. Hell you canāt even answer a question thatās based solely on something you said
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Im not going to answer about left handed qb. Why?.
Between the coaches stoops brought in and being at ou. That is why stoops did ok. Blake brought in guys he was a bad head coach. Stoops was ok he was no switzer.
Riley is a joke. Recruiter yes. Well he bring guys in to bb teams. The only difference is bob had better coaches
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Youāre not gonna answer. Like I saidā¦ā¦youāre a clown. You just want to argue.
āBetween the coaches that he brought inā¦ā¦.and whatever else I tried to decipher on Stoopsāā¦ā¦.id ask you to explain what you mean, but youāve already shown that youāre not interested in any discussion so I wonāt even ask.
Switzer was great. So was Bob. It was a different era, with a different playing field. In my opinion, Bob inherited a terrible product that had outdated facilities. Bob also had to compete with playing a Conf Champ game. He had scholarship limitations. He also had the BCS era in which you couldnāt just match up with a Penn St or possibly backdoor your way into a title. Iām not knocking either of em. It was just a different set of rules that one had versus the other.
You see how I was an adult & had an actual discussion in which I responded to your points/questions? How bout you try that.
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I saw no adult. You continued to ask about a left headed qb. I dnt care why some one will not talk about something. An adult dnt force an issue. Im sorry you dnt know all the reason people have against lefty. I thought you know everything. Its not a secret like your making it out to be. Blake had good players.
You dnt know who stoops had as coaches when he was at ou. Same reason why snyder did well. Gundy have less talnet but has tge same coaches for a while.
Switzer knew how to handle top players that were babies.
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I am pretty sure every scholarship football player is getting some NIL money. I donāt think Gundy would let guys get nothing when an Ollie Gordon is making well over half a million. Like I said though he isnāt a proven star so who is throwing money some at him. It isnāt like he was a highly sought after high school recruit either.
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As for Gordon, if OSU is paying him āwell over half a millionā for 1 yearā¦ā¦then theyāre going just fine in the NIL market. I personally donāt think Gordon is on anything that equates to a 1yr $750k deal.
A QB at the elite portal level is getting $1mil. I have a hard time seeing 1) that OSU would have the bank to pay that to a RB & 2) Why would you pay a RB close to a million dollars when your QB is Alan Bowman?
The NIL darlings are paying everybody. Key Lawrence was a backup safety @OU (he played quite a bit, but essentially was going to be their 3rd option at Safety)ā¦ā¦he got a bag from Ole Miss. McKinney is a starter at a position thatās pretty important.
I asked YOU about left handed QBās because YOU said it. Who else should I ask about something that you said?
Dude I tried. Youāre just too dang dumb. I had you blocked for a while and then gave you another shot hoping you could have a discussion. But after refusing to clarify a statement THAT YOU MADEā¦ā¦I canāt. Youāre the absolute dumbest poster that Iāve encountered on this site, OUinsider, SoonerScoop & OklahomaHighSchoolSports COMBINED. No one is as dumb as you are. Congrats!! Back to having you blocked
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Having a preseason Heisman candidate is worth a lot to a place like OSU. The national attention he will likely get is big for OSU. I just donāt see why anyone would pay big money for a guy that hasnāt had a break out season yet. Nick Martin getting big portal offers makes sense to me because he has solidified himself as a stud. McKinney hasnāt done that yet. I just donāt see how he is worth tampering for at this point in his playing career.
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I dont disagree with any of that. I just think paying $750k to any RB is bad business.
Tamperingā¦ā¦donāt even waste your breath on that. Itās happening. But nothing will be done about it. Itās just the way things are done.
Martin is a stud. But youāre kinda making my point on McKinney. OSU probably isnāt paying him. Some of these others programs that are closer to homeā¦ā¦likely just have to match what OSU is doing and theyāll get him.
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I just donāt understand leaving if heās gonna get paid roughly the same amount of money unless heās absolutely guaranteed playing time or just doesnāt like being in the OSU program. Going to an unknown situation just doesnāt seem wise to me. Iām not going to leave my job to go to another job that pays essentially the same with same benefits unless I donāt like my employer or coworkers. Which maybe the is case for him but just leaving to get a marginal increase in money is pretty dumb in my opinion. Sure it could be better but it could also be a lot worse. A lot of the guys that left last year didnāt get themselves into better positions outside of Muhammad and arguably Thomas. Everyone elseās production decreased.
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Welcome to the club. I blocked him months ago because I gave OSUās a grade of B when they played Kansas and I had the nerve to believe that the goal of an offense is score on every possession unless youāre trying to kill the clock. After that, he started to pick fights with me and call me joy. I have no time for that nonsense.
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Heās from Texas. If you had a chance to go to a situation that you felt was better, that paid you the exact same or betterā¦ā¦.why wouldnāt you leave?
Iām not saying that I feel like his next destination is better than OSU. But these kids are trying to maximize their earning potential. If heās getting $10k right now on a yearly basisā¦ā¦going āback homeā to a situation where he was offered $30k over two years?? Iām just saying that itās not a tough decision for some of these guys.
And too many fans only see the W-L record or stats. You mentioned how only Harper & Muhammad were the only ones that seemingly bettered their situations. Stillwater & OSU has a great culture. A great college town. I canāt stand Gundy, but I love Stillwater. But man it isnāt for everybody. Just like OU isnāt for everybody. Some guys want a different position coach. Some want to play in the SEC. Some get a better NIL deal. Some wanna get closer to home. And not to be an A-hole here, but some guys that have left OSU have complained about Gundys relationship with em. Iām sure there are sour grapes by some of em. Maybe all of em. But OSU isnāt putting a bunch of DBās into the NFL. Maybe heās gonna go play for a program that does. Iām just trying to get you to see the other side.
Its funny. Tomato slice has call half a dozen people the dumbest on this site. If he wasnt a moron o would be proud. Like i care if im blocked lol. Jarrod im glad you blocked me your a closest hater.
Tomato slice is so smart but he doesnt know the down side of a left handed qb. Every time there is a left handed good qb they talk about. Turn on espn. Learn something
This all started, wrongly, tomato slice lied about what i said about this kid. He has spent months telling everyone how righteous he is and cal gundy is not. Only him and joy can go on and on about the same chit. Pathetic
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Heres another way to look at it. A CB named Jocelyn Malaska. Was on full scholarship at Utah. Saw some limited action as a Freshman, but got to play some snaps in the PAC 12 Champ Game and in the Rose Bowl. Was a Nickel guy this year. Battled some injuries and overall had a disappointing year. But he was set to start next year for Utah. He just portaled and will now be at OU as a PWO (preferred walk-on). Not on scholarship. Now, he is on that NIL deal that pays his scholarship/tuition so its not like hes getting nothing. Hes also from Bethany. He left a very good program as a scholarship player, to be a walk-on at a place where he felt was a better opportunity for him. Hes not going to get any real playing time in Norman. OU had every potential starter on the defensive side announce they will return next year. Including every position in the secondary.
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Seems like a poor decision to me if heās not gettin playing time. Oh well I guess Iām not in these guys heads so it is what it is. Iām curious as to what percentage of portalers end up in a better position than they started in. I know a lot of these dudes that enter donāt even find a place at all.
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I think there are 3 types of guys that enter the portal
- The guy who is a good player, but is ready to put some cash in the bank. These guys tend to be good players at a āhave notā and end up at one of the NIL darlings.
- The guy who isnt getting playing time and thinks the grass is greener. It usually isnt and these are the guys who end up falling down a peg or two as far as a program goes.
- The guy that wants to start a bidding war between his current school and some other ābuyersā. He really doesnt wanna leave where hes at, he just wants the home team to pony up some dolla bills