Ah, “fans” like me, but you want to follow the model where we’re a bottom feeder until… 2034-ish… that’s how long it took Kansas to recover from Mangino leaving (and he needed to be fired, that was fireable behavior) and they’re “better” than the destitute years of irrelevance but not better than they were with Mangino. They look “better” in comparison to the ruins of losing a good (on the field) coach. So, you want us to be the bottom of the league for a decade so we can cheer when we crawl back to a 5-7 record.
Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said anything about us needing to be a bottom feeder to be better temporarily. You think this in your mind because everyone else has convinced you that without Gundy we wouldn’t even be able to go 6-6. When it’s already been proven that WITH Gundy we can still find a way to go 3-9.
There are a bunch of coaches across the country that have proven they can take a non-BB program to a bowl game. You don’t have to be a Nick Saban to accomplish the consistent mediocrity you so desire.
No, because there’s no guarantee that we would fall to the bottom of the league. That’s simply an assumption made by you. Some of us would like to take this opportunity of being the top team in the conference with no OU or Texas to worry about now. Not start it off by becoming dead last and forcing our way back to 6-6 or a little better which we had no issues doing after 2005, and before last season. Maybe take this chance to actually win the conference, and stop letting everyone else do it.
You’re the one that brought up Kansas as some kind of success story after three coaches that couldn’t muster a winning record, and now they’re just ok.
Nope, I specifically said it’s possible. I just said based on basketball, I don’t trust OSU to do it. I said based on many blue blood schools (USC, Texas, Nebraska, Michigan, OU), it’s not easy, but yes, there are success stories. Baylor and TCU did a good job hiring HC replacements. I also said, we have more to lose than gain.
Recency bias, stupid. Obviously an outlier in a 20 year career, stupid. You’re the most intellectual dishonest person.
Gundy needed no help getting us to the bottom of the league. Gundy’s been last in the conference twice in the last 20 years, it’s a shame he couldn’t win the conference twice.
It’s the same crap just repackaged. You’re still just using last season as your only reason. Because, taking out last season, we’d be 11-7, which while not worldbeating, doesn’t really support your argument and you’re intentionally cutting off better records, so same dishonest stupidity I just correctly nailed you on.
Too bad we can’t take out last year, right? As far as me cutting off records. I can only compare Gundy to a current coach in the conference. So let’s see how Gundy compares to Campbell since he arrived at Iowa State since 2016 when it comes to what really matters:
Keep in mind that Campbell is at a traditionally worse program with no alum billionaires to bail him out. So next time want to claim I’m “intentionally cutting off records” make sure you keep this copied and pasted .
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