Thank you.
Then they wonder why Gundy doesnât want them. Or trust them. I would have believed this article if staff wrote it. But they like to get a bunch of post. It is funny ,an article like this. First u post it then step back and watch. I would think boone could get manslaughter for giving one of these guys a heart attack.
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Wouldnât it be better if we could have a coaching change before the program has to go into the bottom half of the conference? If you believe that Gundy can rebuild this program, to what level? He isnât recruiting at the level he was when he won the conference. He doesnât run the same offense he used to win the conference.
My thoughts are this, it is probably time for new blood in the HC office. But I would rather that come because of a voluntary retirement than a firing. A truly voluntary retirement, as in Gundy realizes that it may be in the best interest of the program to move on. I donât know if he is capable of that kind of introspection but I think it would be the best case scenario.
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I agree that would be best, but if Gundy was asked, I think the answer would be âfart noisesâ.
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Your article captures what Iâve heard over and over again through the MG years: âheâs the best coach we ever had (which is unquestionably true) and who could we find any better? With one conference championship in 16 tries, my question is, who could we hire that could do any worse? To have a chance find the right guy, youâre not willing to risk 1/16 conference championships? Iâll take the chance.
Would our sister institution to the south be satisfied with a coach who delivers 1/16 conference championships? Of course not. Then why should we, or anybody for that matter? Weâre not ou, I understand but weâre never going to make up any ground on them staying stuck in the fear of, âwe might do worse so we better stay with the guy who pulled us out of 0-10-1 days, and managed to beat ou 2/16 triesâ.
Can anybody at this point say MG has the energy, respect, recruiting ability and program momentum to realistically expect championships in the near future? If not, why not celebrate his accomplishments and move him into an ambassador position of some kind and bring in somebody who does currently posses those qualities? To accept the current state of our football program is a demand for mediocrity and a guarantee no further championships are coming anytime soon.
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He doesnât have what it takes to get us to the next level.
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This statement right here is the point Iâve been trying to make to everyone. Do you guys want this to get to 4-8 or 5-7 level records before doing something about Gundy? I would also think while the program is still relatively stable you would want to bring in a coach within the next year or two.
There has been a decline in the program that past three season when it comes to offensive production and offensive creativity. You can have a good defense, but if you have an offense struggling to score 20 points then itâs not going to matter.
OSU isnât a bad job for a young good coach to take right now. This isnât a 3-8 program thatâs a bottom conference team like it was in the 90âs. So letâs stop taking that approach and view on it when we talk about what would happen if we did get a new coach.
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no kidding. instead, gundy plays a âfair catch specialistâ on special teams.
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No doubt Holder has hired enough non alumni oSu coaches that bleed orange to prove the point of this article false. Keeping a coach better than Gundy is a worry based in the past. That worry comes from a time in oSuâs history that IMO has been altered through the improvements of facilities and increases in athletic budget. The same improvements that Gundy has benefitted from in addition to an extra game every year to boost the win totals and total control over the non conference schedule. I just donât buy the soft opening not having an impact on Big 12 opener struggles and fading as the year progresses. Gundy has demanded the bar be lowered. I can accept that, but is does impact my feeling on touting his successes. What I donât want to except is his refusal to changes things that arenât working like special teams and hiring coaches that will stay verses coaches that can make oSu better. I want an oSu coach that former players canât say enough good things about. That is Cowboy Culture to me.
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My favorite line from this article: âFans every year now can reasonably expect to be in the mix for a Big 12 championship.â Is that true? I expected to compete for the Big XII in 2017 and we were out of it before the last game. It was reasonable to expect it this year and once again, eliminated before our last game. Am I missing some years? Since 2011, I think there have only been three years (2013 also) where we could reasonably expect to compete and we actually competed once. Maybe my definition of âreasonably expectâ is too stringent, but if youâre last game is meaningless, that doesnât meet the standard. With 2 spots to compete for, Iâd think you should at least have a prayer the last week. Even if that prayer is, âif KU beats OU and these three other things happenâ
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Hoped this article and responses would be new and different. Waste of time and words. Blah! Blah! Blah! Bring back the comics. Enough with the comedians.
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Lol
Wasnât true last year or the year prior. But it was somewhat true this year for a bit. And Iâd argue it was absolutely true in 2017, 2016, 2015, 2013, 2011. So, more often than not the last decade, itâs reasonable to say that OSU was in the mix for the conference championship.
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- Gundy is:
1-2 against Tech, 1-2 against Texas, 1-2 against TCU, 0-2 against Baylor (probably 0-3 after Saturday), Barely 2-1 against K State, 0-3 against OU, Barely 2-1 against Iowa State, 3-0 against WV, 3-0 against Kansas.
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Heâs 2-6 against Baylor since the end of 2011, and 1-8 against OU.
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Heâs had three games this season where the teams had to recover an onside kick to avoid losing.
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He gets outcoached by half the coaches in the conference.
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A 13-13 conference record in the last 26 conference games.
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No second or even third place finishes.
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Recruiting rankings of 34th, 38th, and currently 40th.
This is all since the end of the 2017 season. So when the question arises if we can do better than Gundy? The answer is more than likely yes (If the administration does their homework and gets the right coach).
Do you see the downward trend here? We now have Iowa State playing in the Big 12 title game and beating OU just as many times since 2017 as Gundy has since 2005.
Even Indiana has a better team than us and played the blue blood of the Big 10 a heck of a lot closer than OSU did against OU.
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Keep him but stipulate on his contract that he goes hunting on Sat. His demeanor on the sidelines sucks energy out of everyone and his three play offense would embarrass a 7 th grade coach.
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Play action on 4th and 11 when your behind is a complete joke.
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Hardly matters when our playcalling is so simple every decent D-coordinator in the country can defend it w/out getting blown out. What makes you think Presley is gonna take it to the house when we throw him the 10th bubble screen or backshould fade or jump ball? Thereâs just ZERO imagination to what we do offensively. I donât care if youâre Tyreek the Freek, you might hit on one big play in the game but itâs not gonna happen every other series or every third or every fourth.
@Mullet_Power Do you see us EVER setting up a punt return and youâre blaming Stoner?! Thereâs a reason our special teams havenât been special for a whileâŚNO.SPECIAL.TEAMS.COACH.