10 Thoughts on Oklahoma State's 56-48 Loss to Texas Tech

Go watch the first three games of last season. Then come back and tell me he got the same amount of time. There’s nothing better than letting a QB play the last half of the 2022 season and then screwing him over for a 3rd string QB out of Michigan that hasn’t learned to step up in a pocket for 7 years :man_shrugging:.

You act like Gundy’s never chosen the wrong QB on the roster. Alex Cate anyone? Again, how many times does Gundy need to pick the wrong QB before you stop trusting his choices? Also, it was obvious our offense runs more efficiently with a mobile QB. Which Bowman strictly isn’t. You keep failing to mention that :+1:. But hey, with Dunn calling the shots I can expect nothing to be fixed until at least the 5th, 6th, or 7th game of the season.

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HeyChumpster! I have been to practices - I have always had a good eye for talent. The best QB we have is Flores hands down - but you don’t know how he will react on the big stage when the lights come on… like you proven many times on this blog you have no clue. Bowman was by far the worst of the three and our Egomaniac Coach said he has the most experience so he will play. I hope we can keep Flores - a special talent with the X factor.

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If I were him I’d be telling Gundy he better get rid of that joke they call an OC or I’m taking my talents 83 miles south.

They are in the SEC. That won’t matter unless the schools agree to fire up Bedlam again. God help us if they do. The only way him going to OU will matter is if we met in the CFP. Current program trajectories say it’ll never happen.

Hey champ,

I have a good eye for idiots with an inflated sense of self-worth. I’ve got you at the top of my big board.

Hey champ,

You are not worth this much effort, and I am certainly not rewatching non-con games from a year ago, but I’ll review the drive charts.

He got three fewer meaningful series than Bowman. Those three series were going to make him stand out? Get off of it.

Looking it over, Gundy scored or got the team in scoring position the most frequently and never turned the ball over. I still think he should’ve been the guy.

Oh ChumpChamp that wasn’t very nice!

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Did he do worse or better than Bowman? That should be your real question. Nevermind, I got it for ya

Rangel 17-32, 172 yards, 2 touchdowns, 53%

Bowman 30-52, 225 yards, 0 touchdowns, 57%

I’ll say it again. Rangel didn’t get equal time, and yet his numbers are comparable to Backfoot’s. Not to mention he threw more touchdowns.

He got us set up for field goals :roll_eyes:.

I’m not saying any of the QBs have lived up to it, mostly because injuries or being 4th string stopped it. The one thing I have seen, is Bowman has not been good (or smart) all season. The only saving grace I can give Gundy and Dunn on this one is I’m sure he looked great in the spring and fall throwing against our horrendously coached defense. Even with our studs available during the spring and fall the QB can’t be touched, so you don’t have to worry about tight throws or getting hit. Bowman (and the other QBs) could stand tall in the pocket.

Hey champ,

You’re saying they were equal, so what’s your tiebreaker? Gundy would probably say experience, and that would prove out in this way: Bowman had more snaps than either guy because he extended drives. You could make an argument for youth and potential. Fine, but we still don’t know if Rangel is any good. What I honestly think happened is he picked Bowman because he didn’t think anyone stood out, so he didn’t want an entrenched starter for Flores. I think picking Bowman was picking Flores, but I could be wrong.

No, Gunnar didn’t get a bunch of FGs. He led three TD drives, a FG drive, and a missed FG. Three TDs is more TD drives than Bowman or Rangel led combined. He was the most efficient scorer by a lot. Yeah, he had the most series (one more than Bowman, four more than Rangel), but his % of scoring drives is still better. Five out of 13 of his drives were scoring position, if you don’t want to count the miss, he still scored on 4 of 13 and 3 of 13 were TDs. Three out of 13 is much better than Rangel’s 1 of 9.

I think Gundy was unlikely to choose his son for the optics and the family relationship unless Gunnar just lit it up. I don’t think he did enough to make it obvious. He wasn’t a superstar, just a serviceable QB. I also, again, think he probably thought Flores was better and didn’t want his son or any young QB keeping him on the bench or causing a QB controversy unless that young QB (Rangel or Gunnar) really proved themselves. The Flores angle is just my theory, though. We have no evidence that Flores is a star in waiting.

I’m also looking at the guy that’s scored touchdowns for us as well. You know……you gotta score to win :man_shrugging:.

You keep proving my point and still don’t realize it. Gundy continues to pick the least talented QB on the roster to play the most :roll_eyes:.

And we’re not going to get it because Gundy doesn’t like evidence being used against his thought process of “experience” mattering. Which, based on his QB decisions, doesn’t seem to be a large factor.

Hey champ,

It proves my point that you don’t know what you’re talking about. If you’re trying to say Gundy makes bad decisions that are “obvious” to fans (in hindsight which he doesn’t get to use). You’re swearing up and down Rangel is better than Bowman when he was very statistically similar, but you don’t mention the QB that scored the most which, as you say, matters. So, even in hindsight, you can’t figure out who was better.

Bowman and Rangel scored the same number of TDs and Bowman extended drives longer. Sure, if Rangel had 2 or 3 more drives, he might have scored more or he might’ve thrown another pick. He was the only one of the three to do so.

I’m also looking at the BYU game where our offense was more efficient with Rangel in. How about you?

Hey champ,

I have to apologize. When I said that the sample size was too small on these QBs, I was dead wrong. Clearly, Bowman is the worst QB. When I said Smith lit it up with no pressure against a poor defense, I was stupid to say that when we see how he’s come out and dominated Colorado today. Clearly, Rangel’s one quarter of play was plenty to gauge his unquestioned awesomeness just as Smith’s entire game was. What a superstar.

Oops! My bad! I got the scores swapped. It turns out I was right about small sample sizes meaning nothing. I wish Smith well and hope he develops, but he is not ready to play. Same with Rangel. Bowman had spurts. All we saw from Rangel was a little spurt. Hard to say if he can sustain it. I hope he does. I hope all of our QBs are great and we have an embarrassment of riches, but no one got a chance to show it this year due to injury.

Yep, spurts of throwing nearly just as many picks as touchdowns over the last two seasons.

Hey champ,

What was Smith’s ratio today?

What was Bowman’s? 20% completion rate? Looks like Smith was still the better option.

Hey champ,

He threw 5 passes. In junk time. It’s like you don’t even understand the concept of a sample size. If he went 0 for 1 would you be like, “hE tHrEw ZeRo PeRcEnT”? He also didn’t throw two picks. So, if he gets a skewed percentage counted against him, I guess he gets credit for not throwing a pock in five attempts? Knuckledragger.

I realized that a QB that’s been playing college football for 7 years and has all kinds of “experience” can only complete 1 of 5 passes against decent competition. Also, Bowman’s best game this season was against Tulsa. A team that might be the worst on our schedule. But hey, you go ahead and keep trying to convince us Backfoot is better :+1:.

Also, Smith is in his second start ever. It’s not like he’s been playing for 7 years. I would hope that if Smith was in his 7th year he would calm. The picks down. Not Bowman though. He’s perfected the consistency is those over the last couple of years.