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Iād laugh too if I knew the guy who just won the conference didnāt deem the greatest coach in school history good enough to learn from 
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Thatās how dumb you are, not long ago Leach came to spring training, thereās been others that came. They didnāt come to give advice either. You text girl comments thinking youāll impress someone
Dillingham throws tantrums like Matt, reason they connect 
Like who? Who else has came to Oklahoma State? Looks to me like Leach came to OSU to help Gundy with offense:
āObviously coach Leach is not like anybody else," Gundy said. "Iāve been around him before and Iāve always had a good relationship with him. That was the first time Iād been around him in a football setting.
āVery informative and a great opportunity for me to learn what was going on when theyāre out there running his offense and heās sitting there with me.ā
Source: ESPN (2010)
So whoās learning from who here?
Did Gundy hire him first moron. Think , Leach came to see how we run a program. You think coaches bag on another when they are friends. No you go look up some nonsensical post from wherever to try and make a stupid point from. A stupid person. You still donāt understand or know football How many times did Leach win the B12 
Thatās not what Gundy said in his statement from his interview. Maybe actually read what I post for you first . Your opinions might be respectable if you stopped lying and actually presented some facts 
. Thereās not a single thing in that article that suggested Leach came to learn from Gundy.
Nothing in it to suggest Gundy invited him either. Just your biased answer idiot. You never answered how many B12 titles Leach won. Maybe he wanted to learn something 
The entire article talks about how Gundy was thrilled that someone who knew offense was finally there to help him:
āObviously coach Leach is not like anybody else,"
āVery informative and a great opportunity for me to learn what was going on when theyāre out there running his offense and heās sitting there with me."
āIt was entertaining. ā¦ [Leach] and I went over the play scripts and he could kind of tell me what was going on because obviously he has a thorough background in this offense,ā Gundy said.ā
ā Iām learning it and looking forward to continuing to learn it and see how it works out." (Gundy)
āIām staying out of the way," Gundy said. āAnd as long as we score points and move the ball, thatās OK.ā
Go read the article. Leach didnāt learn anything from Gundy.
I think the better question is this:
Whoās offense did Gundy implement to win his only Big 12 title?
Why is it a better question ? Leach never won a B12 championship !! In case you canāt comprehend chit Leach carried his offense from his formed coach at Kentucky, went to uo and many have copied it. Study up , everything seems to escape you
Youāre right. Gundy had to hire his former assistant and steal his offense to do it . Gundy certainly wasnāt running it until 2010. Btw, the one year Leach had a chance both Texas and OU (who played for the National Title) were extremely good. Not as good in 2011 (Texas 8-5) and (OU 10-3). Maybe next time be smart enough to recognize the year and level of competition that was faced . You know how you like to blame OU for Gundy not being able to win again? Wellā¦I can use that same argument for Leachās one great year. Or does that specific excuse only exist for Gundy?
Dig up some more excuses jackassā¦ lol do we get to pick when they are good and play down another level. Thatās like the runner up titles we lost to the goons you said we should just be betterā¦ lol. No one stole anything you imbecile, itās done everywhere all over. Did I make an excuse for Mason losing to Lincoln because they hired him !!! Get real, you just move to another excuse thatās lame as you
I just dig up facts and data. While you, for whatever reason, seem to think your opinions and false information seem to be true . Itās really as simple as that.
Iāve never said we should be better than OU except in a few rare occasions. Thatās you putting words in my mouth. If anything, itās been you that think we would beat them. When that doesnāt happen. Then itās back to making excuses for failure. I think we were better in 2010 and 2013. Guess who ended up winning?
I revert back to the fact that it was an offense that Leach implemented in college football for use pretty much before a majority of the college football coaches did. If you think a lot of teams were running that offense in the late 90ās and even early 2000ās. Then you donāt know what the hell youāre talking about. You better start learning some football history .
Hal Mumme was the divisor of the offense when Leach joined him at an NAIA school if you want to speak the truth instead of twisting it into your own theory you jackass. Mumme was hire as head coach at Kentucky with Leach going with him. Leach went to uo for a year before going to Tech. So get facts straight instead of twisting them to match your stupid ā Iām always right ā BS You really donāt know football, you just go look up chit so you think people you know what you talk about
You narcissism shows every post
How many teams were running Air Raid in the 80ās, 90ās, and early 2000ās? Thatās the entire point. I already know about Leachās career. OU practically won the national title because of it. OSU won the conference ONCE because of it. Basically, Gundy stole from Leach. Because Gundy wasnāt running an air raid from 2005-2009. Anything Gundy learned on his own came from Pat Jones (who never won the conference or beat OU). Everything else Gundy has taken from someone else.
Then everyone else was running off of Mumme offense and stealing from it is what you need to say dumbass. Leach NEVER won the B12ā¦ consistently played in BOWL games you think arenāt worth going to. You got caught speeding again and you try your backward shuffle to move to something I could care less about him coaching offense for the goons. Anyone that knows football knows that. No one likes you here , take a hike
The issue is not if Leach won the Big 12 or not. The issue if you look back at when the conversation first started was that Leach was helping explain things to Gundy about the Air Raid offense when he came to Stillwater in 2010. Itās also evident that Gundy said he was LEARNING and trying to STAY OUT OF THE WAY.
What youāve done is tried to pull your old classic switch bait. Youāre the one that brought up and implied that Leach went to Stillwater to learn from Gundy first. I never said a word about it until then. I actually had proven it was the other way around . If you donāt like it, then donāt be dumb and post stuff without knowing what happened first.
No jackass you pull your dumb stunts of saying Gundy STOLE Leaches offense is where it started. I shut that door for you. People tend to follow successful offenses ā¦
Stop being a jerk on everything !!! Try keeping your trap shut trashing the program. You dam sure arenāt changing anything so go tf away. Iāve told you no one likes you. Most have you blocked Stop ruining a thread
So why did Gundy in the article state that Leach was having to explain the offense to him? READ THE ARTICLE AGAIN!!!
You took something that wasnāt there , if Gundy didnāt already know it after Holgerson ran it as well, then Weeden has to explain it to Monken( who was probably better than Holgy) you will believe anything. Gundy oversees all of it , not just offense
Iām sure Leach tweaked it every year
Go pay up and quit mooching on a free board