Presley is by far our best possession receiver. We better hope we find something even close to him in two years. He’s what 5’ 6” ? He’s not getting past corners or safety’s
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You never said anything about rankings. You can’t expect people to guess at what you’re talking about.
You said wins do matter, and now you’re saying “what’s it matter?”. So which one is it? Do you want to win or not? Or are you just good with 7-6 like I’ve predicted all along?
Here’s a clue for you joy , we have wins , lots of them. That’s why we are ranked in wins the last ten years but you refuse to acknowledge it Only CC is what you want, you don’t care if we are Baylor now after ‘21…. We actually won the championship that year for me
10 wins is a good season whatever you say
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I’ve never said I don’t like wins, and I’ve never said I’d be fine with losing seasons and a few conference titles. That’s always been your assumption you’ve always spewed out that nonstop jabber of yours. Like we don’t have a choice or something 
. Here’s an idea. How about we have a winning season and a couple more conference titles, sound good?
Where’s our trophy at? The thing is nobody cares what you think in those terms. For most, they’ll tell you we didn’t win the conference title in ‘21. Not fans, media, or even Gundy would come up with such a ridiculous idea . The only reason you think that is because you have the need for some self validation and satisfaction that isn’t truly there. We call that delusion in today’s world. You sound like a woman that’s hit the wall and makes TikTok videos all day.
Here’s where you’re wrong joy. The CC was a made up convulsion to garner more money out of tv. For as long as I can remember when you went the round robin the team with the less losses was CC…. We won it fair and square. That’s my take on it You take yours and use it
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Here’s where you’re wrong Mike. The actual Big 12 trophy goes to the team that won that game out of the top two in the conference. I stand by what I said. If the fans, media, and even our HC don’t count ‘21 as winning the conference. Then we never did. You’ll feel better once you’re honest with yourself.
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How long has the CC been in place ? Since the merger to the B12…… we played 50 years with no CC game. That’s the way it should be. If we were healthy and had a third string running back that knew how to go north we win. What do you think Ollie would would have done
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If we had an OC that could figure out something besides running up the gut inside the 10 yard line 10 times then we probably do win. If we’re going to make an OC the 15th highest paid OC in the nation, then we should probably expect better results. Grow a brain dude.
How many W’s does that OC have in the last 4 years idiot ? Was it because we had superior talent to the goons ? Texas ? If he’s so bad why aren’t we hovering at .500 or below you frigging moron. You can’t win this battle. You’re grasping for straws
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And how many bad losses has he caused us? Including a championship. You can keep drinking the water in Picher, OK if you want.
Again you go back to the championship moron. I’m not explaining it to you again, you have brain block. You again don’t answer the question, you try and turn it around again.
#whataboutism…
Edit since you won’t answer the question
29 wins the last 3 years 
He had multiple chances to right that offense. You can blame it all on Jackson if you want, but the offensive side of that game sucked the entire game. Every OSU fan would agree with that. Unless they didn’t watch the game. Which I’m guessing you didn’t.
You don’t need to explain anything. You actually believe we won the conference in ‘21. It would be stupid for me to listen to any of your advice. Even if I were drunk I wouldn’t do it.
Deflect deflect and deflect again. You won’t acknowledge the wins. Maybe you can’t count that high ?
Sure I watched the game and our offense at half of what it was during regular season. OL had half out, a couple on defense. So what’s your point ? I knew we would struggle with their defense anyway. It’s like you think that’s some novel point
You should take some positive advice instead of acting like a 
most of time
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Sounds like you still believe winning records are better than championships.
You should tell them at sports-reference.com and all the other sites and maybe they’ll start listing it instead of championships.
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Jug what are you mumbling about. That site list alot of stuff.
Now your joining your son. Deflecting on anther way to repeat your mantra.
You two are really good at looking at stats that tell us nothing. Repeatedly saying the same thing. You say one thing titles. Winningest coach in osu history. Winningest active coach in big 12. 3rd all time in big 12. 5th active winningest coach in college football. 1 can rattle of more stats on winning.
What is the most said thing about gundy sport guys say on air. You nevet can count gundy out or bet against him
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His inability to win the conference and beat OU.
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Repeat it all you want. Your wasting everyones time. Be normal and talk about the post. The team coming up in 2024.
You repeat your 2 statements. Every time we talk about diff chit that is impressive.
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Yet for 9 years before we started communicating and the 3 years since, nothing has changed except he won’t be losing to OU. Guess he’ll find plenty of others to lose to.
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I bet you have talked about this for 13 years.
What i dont understand is why you think we will do worse. Been in 2 title games in 3 years. Take ou and texas out we would have lost 2 league games a year. That would have been 80% over that same period you talk about.
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Jug you need to take a cognitive test. See if you are worse than Biden. You both have one track minds. Do you have someone write this down or use a teleprompter to read it !! You’re a lost goon fan. Go ahead with them to the SEC…. Enjoy your 8-4 or 7-5 seasons
You fail to recognize our top ten in wins and wins against ranked teams, again take that cognitive test , you need too
