Let’s see. Spencer Sanders
Comp% Rate
2019. 62.8 145.4
2020. 62.8 143.2
2021. 62.1 133.9
2022. 57.6 128.3
Hey champ,
I knew this was dishonest and stupid immediately. You’re the kind of low integrity scumbag that if you sold me a car, you’d tell me the transmission was recently rebuilt and I’d automatically know the alternator was busted.
2019 - 16 TDs (2 rush TDs), 11 INTs (5 Fumbles Lost)
2020 - 14 TDs (2 rush TDs), 8 INTs (3 Fumbles Lost)
2021 - 20 TDs (6 rush TDs), 12 INTs
2022 - 17 TDs (8 rush TDs), 9 INTs
He also sat out a year.
According to Gundy it’s “on the field” experience that matters. A person could watch tape and learn all day long. Doesn’t mean they’re going to light the field on fire every game. Dax Garman was second on the depth chart in 2014. We later find out the two guys behind him are a lot better. The fact that he was in front of those two guys (one in the NFL, and the other in the CFL) should tell us everything we need to know about Gundy and his obsession with experience.
Maybe since we just got rid of a fake QB coach and hired a new one the “experience” category may not matter all that much. It certainly didn’t on OSU’s past evaluations of quarterbacks. I find no reason why it’s really much of a concern now. Believe it or not, proper coaching and evaluation of a QB can make up for a lot of the “experience”.
Hey champ,
Your Dumb Face: Gundy only means playing experience.
Also Your Dumb Face Somehow: That’s why he started Daxx Garman over Rudolph who had exactly the same amount of snaps at the college level as Rudolph.
The way you don’t even know when you contradict yourself astounds me.
There’s no substitution for experience, though. Evaluation and coaching will never close that gap. Rudolph was a little better than serviceable as a freshman. He was a star after a couple of seasons.
Maybe you forgot the part where I said “I find no reason why it’s really much of a concern now. Believe it or not, proper coaching and evaluation of a QB can make up for a lot of the “experience”.
Dax sucked at the D1 level. He was a literal statue. I watched the guy play in high school. I knew for a fact that any D1 school he went to he would be riding the bench. That proved to even be true after he transferred to Maryland. He couldn’t even get on the field at Arizona, and the OSU coaching staff thinks he’s worthy to be second string at a top 25 program? Arizona and Maryland figured out he didn’t need to be on the field. However, OSU coaches couldn’t figure that out?
Rudolph proved in Norman and against a solid Washington team that Dax had absolutely no business being out there in the first place. That’s not on Rudolph. That’s on the coaching staff that keeps misevaluating OSU quarterbacks.
And yet over and over again we’ve seen during the Gundy era that’s a completely false statement .
Hey champ,
No, we haven’t because pretty much every QB we’ve had with the lone exception of Alan Bowman has gotten better over time.
We weren’t talking about getting better over time. We were talking about Gundy saying quarterbacks need 15 games or more of experience. Which simply isn’t true given that Robinson, Weeden, Rudolph, and Cornelius were all first year starters that did just fine. Chelf didn’t have 15 full games under his belt before becoming the starter, and he did just fine.
It’s purely an evaluation and coaching error for the most part. If Bowman was third string at Michigan, then what on earth makes a person think he should be a starter at what some on here consider a top 25 program? He didn’t do drastically better than the other two quarterbacks in 2023 through the first three games.
OSU (or Gundy if you will) think seniority and experience are a huge deal. It’s not if the starter can’t prove he’s any better than the quarterbacks on the bench . When OSU played at BYU it was the first time during the season they actually held a lead against another P4 opponent at the half. So obviously not having Bowman on the field was a good thing.
How many times do you want Gundy to be forced to pull a starting QB off the field, only to find out the back up was better? Coaching and evaluation matters a ton my friend .
Hey champ,
They need 15 games of experience before what, you verbal diarrhea dropping psychopath?
You are just a stupid idiot. His comp% went down every year. His TD% went down every year. His Y/A went down every year.
Hey champ,
Turnovers dropped pretty dramatically his last two years over his first two and his TDs went up. That’s the sign of a more experienced QB.
The trolls are missing the point or they conveniently ignore it. Either way they suck. I’m pretty sure any QB is better at the end of a 15 game string than when they started at game 1. Some QB’s just have a higher starting point.
Exactly correct.
How much better was Alan Bowman in 2024 than in 2018 for Texas Tech?
Hey champ,
You’re right. How can anyone argue this logic? As a general rule, quarterbacks, football players in general, and all human beings get worse with more experience. We should only be recruiting athletically gifted toddlers for all positions. We can get one, at most two, seasons out of a guy before his experience turns him into rubbish.
Can you not read? I just showed you four or five quarterbacks in the Gundy era that did just fine, and they didn’t even need 1-2 games before giving solid consistent performances. Do they get better over time? Sure, but that’s not the main subject of the topic we’re talking about. We’re talking about if a QB with no experience needs that much time. It’s been proven in the past that’s not the case .
Hey champ,
1.) So Gundy clearly plays QBs without experience if you have several examples, so what’s your problem?
2.) He values experience. He absolutely should value experience because experience makes you better. Period. This is undeniable. Experience doesn’t make you great or better than an unproven talent, but it makes you better. Arguing the other side of this is dumb.
3.) In fact, since you’re saying practice/offseason/film room doesn’t count as experience, what examples do you have of Gundy playing experience over talent? Bowman? He gave the two inexperienced guys snaps to try and not play the experienced hand.
Well if I’m wrong, tell us what made him better in 2024. His foot work? His ability to read the defense? How about his ability to stand in the pocket till the last second?
Hey champ,
He just had some regression. Dan Marino regressed his last year in college, but he was still trending up to be one of the greatest QBs in NFL history.
As to why, maybe it was changing blocking schemes that gummed up the offense. I think he got uncomfortable and lost confidence and composure in that Arkansas game and didn’t recover from it. Gundy saw it. Tried to bench him against Utah but Rangel played as bad or worse. He was looking for a replacement all season.
Go back and look at my first two posts.
Bobby Reid had experience (got replaced)
J.W. Walsh had experience (got replaced)
Alan Bowman had experience (got replaced)
Experience does always pay off. Period.
He ended up choosing wrong. Notice how Bowman was just average 2023, and literally couldn’t do anything without OG running for 300 yards. Notice how we actually could get a halftime lead in 2024 when Bowman isn’t in the game . Misevaluation at its finest
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Hey champ,
Naw, your lack of logic lowers my IQ and your girlish whining lowers my testosterone if I stare at it too long.