I understand what you mean about Walsh being several rungs down. I’m worried that somebody burned a bridge with Henson somehow. We pulled him from Mizzou to be our OL coach, but then he didn’t get the OC job when it came open (this may have been the Gleason days). So I’m wondering how easy it would be to get Henson to come back. To add to this: yes, his OL recruiting was really really good, but he struggled to develop them once they got here.
I really dnt see gundy living soon. So zac could be older then gundy is now.
Walsh has alot going for him. Texas connection. Coaches son. Alumni.
Qb coach could open up. They could let him take over wr.
Gundy will be here until Gunnar and Gage finish. That would be my guess. And I got confused for a bit but I see what you meant. When Gundy leaves, Zac would then be close to the age that Gundy was back in 2005 when he took over.
They haven’t made hires yet, so I don’t know if they’ll be alum focused like Holder was. They seem like they’re willing to take bigger swings. That said, I’d be ok with Robinson or Walsh (assuming Walsh cuts his teeth more in the next five years that Gundy will probably be here). I wish Weeden had gone the coaching route. My understanding is that he taught Monken the offense. Maybe he’d come in as a QB coach.
They hired Littel’s replacement. Jacie Hoyt is her name. And she will be an absolute rockstar, I’m predicting. She reminds me of a REALLY YOUNG and an even HOTTER Sherri Coale. Same level of passion, aggression, and is already saying that the Cowgirls want to win Big 12 titles on her watch. I’ve been thoroughly impressed so far.
Not a pissing contest. Just a legitimate question. What is/are the reasons why so many people are so high on Walsh and/or Robinson? Those are the two most popular names I hear my OSU people say they want when the question comes up. But one has never even been a position coach while the other has never been on a college staff at any point. I’m not dogging you or either candidate. I’m just asking why?
This is easy enough. Qb usually make head coaches. They are alumni. Both are coaching now. Weeden would be on here but, hasnt coached any.
Quarterback’s usually make head coaches? In the last 15 years 1 quarterback turned head coach has won 1 national championship. Recent history shows defensive backs make better head coaches.
Dnt let joy hear you saying that. Joy thinks the best coaches never played the game like leach or dykes.
The alumni connection is likely to make them loyal.
Robinson is on McVey’s staff who has been the innovative “it” coach for the last several years. People want that culture/structure/innovation.
Walsh is a coach’s son and wasn’t supremely talented, so work ethic and football IQ made him successful insomuch as he was. Would like to see that kind of blue collar, lunch pail mentality.
I’m not advocating for either one, but both have upsides, I think. I’m just saying I’d give either one a chance. Like I said, Weiberg/Shrum might cast a wider net than alumni. It’s kind of pointless to speculate now as I don’t think Gundy is retiring real soon, but those are two that people here are familiar with who could develop in the coming years and who have desirable qualities. If you branch out farther, there are literally hundreds of coaches building their resumes that no one knows about now, but will be talked about by the time Gundy leaves.
Ah, well. There you go, not an alum.
I don’t care if she’s a hot Sherri Coale, can she be a competant Sherri Coale?
I agree 100% on that they both would be far more likely to stay loyal to Oklahoma State. I also agree on how important that is when making a hire at OSU and the upside of each of them.
I also think that Walsh is a decade of experience away for me if im an OSU fan. Hes not been in charge of formulating a game plan or even coaching a position at this point. From the outside looking in, id say Gundy’s over/under on how many more years hes at OSU is 5. The biggest drawback for Robinson would be recruiting. Hed likely be more prepared to be an NFL HC in 5 years than a college one. I just think the OSU job has been elevated to bigger and better candidates than either of those two. But I see your points.
You ate like most people here i guess. They all seem to think gundy will only stay 5 years, basically when his sons ate done. That would be 6. I think that scares mike more then anything have to put gunnar out there.
I dnt now what motivations gundy but he has 10 years to retirement. Osu football ( and other football) is all he knows.
Walsh would be ready by then. Walsh because of his dad has alot of upside. Coaches son and from texas
Oh…I want her to be better than Coale in every category.
There are also coaching tree guys. Would Holgy or Monken or Knowles come back for a HC opportunity? Of course Monken and Knowles aren’t spring chickens; if Gundy retired in 5 years, they’d be over 60, but Dana would have some tread left. Mason? Maybe he’s a successor hire like Riley was since he’s had HC experience. Not a long-term option, either. Could maybe get 5-10 years in, probably closer to 5.
@jake4 I love Holgerson as a personality. Love him as a soundbite. Love him as an OC. I wouldnt want him as my HC. Hes too close to that Mike Leach cloth. Again, I love those two guys but I dont think you win at an elite clip with either of them running the entire show. I admittedly am not as big a Gundy fan as I once was, but he undoubtedly knows how to run a program. Set a culture and stuck to it. Hes a poor-mans Dabo. Lincoln Riley is a rich mans Leach. OSU when Gundly leaves will be a fascinating thing to watch.
Leach had Texas Tech at its high water mark until a crybaby and his unethical father got him fired.
Holgerson’s been a mixed bag. He got some solid to good teams out of WVU which I don’t think is easy, but also some bad teams there and at Houston. Would like to see consistency out of him, but he might do better at a better program. I agree that I don’t think it would be a homerun hire, but the fanbase would get excited and give him some rope.
Those are just the obvious options. Or Dunn, but I’m not real excited by that. He needs to have “dunn” more. I really expect we’ll see a whole new hiring process from Shrum/Weiberg. Holder was timid, only going for alumni or small time guys. It was successful on the whole, put limited and safe. I expect some guys with ties will be looked at, but Gundy’s replacement will be a national search.
Leach had 1 great year. The rest of the time he was running an 8-4 program. I love Leach as he was a major part of the renaissance under Stoops @OU. But I think a lot of people think Leach did a little more at Tech than what he did. He had 1 double digit win season in his 10 years there. He did a good job there. Not knocking him. I think when Gundy leaves, OSU will be a program that’s capable of getting someone better than a retread like Holgerson or a Leach who will likely be in his mid 60’s
Dana took a step down. Why? His recruiting was not working out at wv.
What i fine weird is why their are people who are as high on dana as they are. Great oc. Yes. But, at osu he didnt give us more then pall calling. Just like Knowles.
West virginia is a good place they have won at times. Same with houston.
Just another miles leach type of guys
I think Gundy’s replacement almost has to be a national search. I remember at one time thinking Gleason was brought in to be the heir-apparent. Boy was that stupid of me!