Hey champ,
No one did that. You’re just bad at reading.
Maybe stop calling everyone else delusional and narcissistic? Let’s just take a look for a moment:
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You said 2011 is going to be peak. The fact we don’t have to face an OU or Texas any longer should make our path easier. Instead, we’re returning a majority of our starters and going winless in the conference now
. I have this feeling if we can’t win a conference game returning the most starters in the conference. Then NIL will almost not even matter if you hold onto crappy and old coaching. So with all that being said. You’ve consistently proven you don’t think we can win the conference again no matter who it is we’re playing. -
I pointed out that most OSU fans aren’t expecting us to win a CFP game or even a national title for that matter. I certainly don’t expect that to happen anytime soon. Why? Because you first have to prove to me you can win your conference again. Especially with no BB schools in your way
. I also didn’t forget who the HC is and some of the stupid hires he’s made. For every one step forward Gundy takes. He’ll usually find a way to take two, and sometimes, even three steps back. -
You’ve been caught. You already implied that psychopath’s opinion merits the rest of the fan base. Then switched it back to who you “actively engaged with”
. Why not just go ahead and say you realize his opinion doesn’t constitute the opinions of the entire fan base as a whole? That would’ve been more simple than letting your bipolar disorder get the best of you, and calling someone delusional for pointing out your errors .
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Hey champ,
You’re so lost I’d have to hire you a sherpa to get you out.
In 2011, we didn’t just win the conference, we finished 3rd, a questionable missed FG call kept us from the title game, probably should’ve made it anyway, and I think we would’ve beaten LSU. I absolutely think we can win the conference, but winning the conference wouldn’t even be close to 2011. We’d have to win at least two playoff games to top a third place finish. We can win the conference and not be even a top 10 team. The NIL will matter in the playoff. That’s your first nonsense statement corrected.
I was talking to someone who was literally saying that calling 2011, a third place finish and good enough to win it all, should not be our peak. Gundy has really nothing to do with it. That’s your Gundy Derangement. He said if Gundy were gone, we could be better. I don’t think it matters. We don’t have the resources. A nat is out of reach (and most team’s reach) no matter who our coach is. We could get Saban. Doesn’t matter.
He is the person I was talking to, you mouth-breathing goblin. He was acting like firing Gundy could put us in NC contention and I’m telling him he’s insane. You came in and essentially agreed with me, but for stupid reasons, and you’re acting like we were on opposite sides. You’re a fool.
I’ll hold you to that 
. I don’t know how you can be so confident when constantly making excuses for why we can’t . It’s just really weird.
How about making the playoff first?
He hired a fake OC and D2 DC that he eventually was forced to fire. What the hell do you mean he has nothing to do with it? He’s the HC, and believe it or not, he actually owns that 0-9 conference record from last season. As well as the worst P5 defense in the country last season .
I agree. Gundy isn’t good enough to win a natty. Especially if you can only win your conference once in 20 years. We are on opposite sides. You believe we couldn’t do any better without Gundy. I believe we could find someone that could be better. Gundy pretty much proved to me last season he’s not serious about winning the conference at all. He’s strictly just wanting to get to any bowl game.
Hey jackass where did I ever say 7-6 was good ? Point it out !! It’s better than 3-9 for sure. The best winning percentage the last 10 years until last year f’ed it up and it was in with mostly BB’s so keep my name out of I’m good with 7-6 narcissist
Change to something different when you get caught
Gundy was never vested in NIL until now because he was late seeing the writing on the wall. He hired about as good as he could hire and the assistants some are highly regarded
I have no idea what the record will be this year but we will win more than 3, is the qb turns out decent more than 5
Hey champ,
Dealing with your 5th grade reading comprehension is rough.
I’ve not made any excuses about why we can’t win. We absolutely can, but I wouldn’t take us against the field even if I thought we had the best odds to win. It’s still hard to win the conference in a league with parity. Look at this year, absolutely no one had ASU winning.
Stupid comment.
FFS, please follow the conversation. He has nothing to do with not being able to win a national championship. No one is coming into OSU and winning us a title, so it doesn’t matter if it’s Gundy or Saban or a tomato can. Steve Sarkisian and Ryan Day are solid to good, not great, coaches. I think Kenny Dillingham is probably better than both with what he did. Doesn’t matter. Money matters. You can’t outcoach money. When we make the playoffs, it won’t matter if it’s Gundy or after Gundy. We will lose because we will be up against Michigan or Ohio State or Georgia or Alabama and their fat bankrolls.
You think we’d have a legitimate shot at a national title if we fired Gundy? You’re nuts and wrong. I believe a few things: 1.) Gundy is capable is winning the conference. He’s capable of maximizing our potential. 2.) He’s not the best coach we could possibly have. 3.) The odds of finding a better coach are not good. More than likely, we’d be set back. See: basketball. 4.) A better coach won’t raise our ceiling. It will just raise our odds of reaching our ceiling.
The smarter play is the known commodity. Maybe if Weiberg proves himself to be exceptional at finding coaching talent. He did a good job with DT, but we’re a wrestling blueblood and there are fewer wrestling programs. Mike Holder ruined basketball for 20 years (a sport in which we had more legacy) with two bad hires and one good one who left before building anything. There’s no guarantee I’m going to live 20 more years. I can’t go into a football tailspin for two decades. There’s no need. We have a good football coach. He’s had lows, but he’s shown he can exceed expectations. He can win the conference again. Josh Holliday is a similar coach to Gundy. If he gets let go soon, he’ll be our canary in the mines for what we can expect for our next football HC.
You’ve been known historically on here to defend 7-6 as winning. Don’t act like you haven’t. You’ve also consistently defended Gundy’s overall record without any kind of criticism for only being able to win the conference one time. While teams like Baylor and K State have won it more times since 2011.
Thanks!!! Maybe you should ask yourself how the team with the most returning starters in the conference found a way to go 3-9 in the first place?
Thanks for reinforcing my point. A guy that can seem to win regular games. However, is consistent in snatching away defeat from the jaws of victory when it comes to winning any major games. For example, the conference title.
So now you’re finally waking up to the point people on this forum were making even before Gundy thought about it? I would say if Gundy is the smartest man in the room. Perhaps he should’ve had a plan and preparation in place? No, let’s go hire some more people that don’t know what they’re doing .
That’s because Dillingham came from Oregon and he isn’t stupid. He knows sticking with incompetent coaches and relying on one player to get his team where he wants them to be isn’t a recipe for success. Which is exactly why Gundy is now all of a sudden copying his model .
I highly doubt Saban would take a team of 19 returning starters and finish dead last in the conference no matter where he was coaching. I understand your point about a natty. I’m pointing out to you that it absolutely does matter who the coach is when it comes to trying to win the conference. That’s the entire point. You’re saying you think we can absolutely win the conference. I’m saying we can’t do that unless we have someone competent enough to know what it feels like to win a big trophy more than once.
I’m not even so sure we have a legitimate shot of even winning the conference with the way Gundy is doing things.
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Same dumb talking points you memorized for a year. Last year’s over. Get over it. Try coming up with something original. You aren’t smart enough to come up something is why.
You think everyone isn’t tired of idiotic posts
Last year was a product of what happens when you give Gundy full reign over the hiring process and allow him to be relaxed 24/7. You end up being last place in a conference with no BB schools. You end up running the same thing over and over again hoping for different results. You end up with the worst P4 defense in the country. You end up screwing over a player’s draft stock because of your own arrogant stupidity. Thank God the BoR intervened or a guarantee you at least one of those clowns from last season would still be on staff if it was up to Gundy.
I don’t need to come up with anything else. Gundy just continues giving me the ammo I need .
Thing is you repeat it 35 times like no one has seen it narcissist
Maybe if you actually would acknowledge facts they wouldn’t have to be repeated .
Facts that are there for everyone to see ? And you think you did something novel ? 
What a clown. 
Ya must be blind then .