Like I told my OSU buddies when they call me talking about firing Gundy……WELCOME TO THE BIG LEAGUES! Those complaints are a sign that your program is bigtime
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@KetchupSicle Yea folks calling to fire coaches for unrealistic reasons is part of the landscape when you are grabbing for the brass ring. None of that bothers me, it’s part of the environment of trying to be elite.
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Well, kudos to you because you’re a better man than I am. Parents of players suck at all levels (for the most part). Those parents are poison to coaches & their lockerrooms. “Hey Mommy & Daddy, your kid just isn’t very good. It’s not the coaches fault”. If parents were willing to say that at some point, it’d be a breath of fresh air.
Now I get it, Gundy/Venables and so on are responsible for getting those guys to campus & making them better players. They’re getting paid a lot of money to figure it out. But dude it’s HAAAAARRRRRDDDDD to actually coach a kid hard enough nowadays without running him off. Being a coach is harder now than it’s ever been. How can you instill a culture of being tough? How can you lay a foundation of battling thru adversity and grinding out a process with teammates? How can you do that when the portal door is wide open for you? Look right now on social media. It’s littered with kids getting attention and re-recruited simply because they chose to quit one place & go to another. I hate it. If your HC leaves/gets fired…….you can portal & play immediately. Other than that……you sit a year.
Sorry for the rant.
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@KetchupSicle your observations are good, it is a tough world for coaches. I know that I am a product of my environment growing up and how I am wired genetically. 67 years of knowing and interacting with people and observing my own children I know that this is true for everyone else as well. So the fact of the matter is Coaches have very little control in shaping someone by the time they get to college. if someone on the team is tough it’s probably because they already were before arrival. What coaches can do is teach better ways to use that toughness.
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“Coaches have very little control in shaping someone by the time they get to college”
I completely disagree with that. My dad & my HS coach were major influences on me. Coach Van Horn is someone I talk to on a weekly basis. He sat with my family at my wedding. Outside of my dad, coaches have had more influence on me than anyone. Athletes tend to feel the same way.
Yep and you were involved with them before college
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“ Coaches have very little control in shaping someone by the time they get to college”
I just gave you an example of my HS coach……which was before college. Every person has a different experience. But I know the vast majority of people who played sports for a large portion of their life are shaped in large parts by the coaches they played for. The 4 kids that I coached that are currently playing D-1 baseball are like family to me. So are the other 2 that are in JUCO & the 6 that are simply students or living in the “real world”. I won’t try to change your mind about your experience with a coach, but I’m going to tell you that your experience is definitively in the minority.
Uhhhh no it’s not. There is a large body of science behind what I have said.
Science?!?! I’m gonna need you to explain the science behind saying “ Coaches have very little control in shaping someone by the time they get to college”
Yea well if you don’t know you probably didn’t pay attention in school, It’s pretty well known stuff. However my wife is a msw and I’ve got a lot of psychiatrist acquaintances so perhaps that’s my advantage. Anyway it’s basic child development and that subject has been studied to the nth degree and it is understood very well. if you want to discover more you should research that topic, there is plenty out there to find.
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My research was done through life. I lived it. Not a book. Tootles
You’re the biggest clown on here and a Gumby fanboy. It’s sickening. Still writing Engrish, LOL!
Mine also, had a coach I hated as a soph and loved him when I graduated. Life ! It teaches you a hell of a lot more than a scripted book. He made me a man with a direction when I didn’t have one. Lost my dad at 12 had to get tough quick, but it needed to be channeled
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Good to see you so positive today, and you biotched about us calling some of the stooges names 
what a hoot
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Oklahoma State announced Friday it has made changes to the contract of head football coach Mike Gundy that includes a substantial $1 million annual raise. As part of his new deal, Gundy will receive a $1 million annual retention bonus each of the next five years.
I respond in like kind to rude people like Robert. Glad you are enjoying it.
@robert28 hasn’t ever been rude to me or anyone I d seen that wasn’t the fire starter Rude comments to me don’t bother me. I enjoy the banter unless it gets personal
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Yes but his salary doesn’t go up 1 mil every year
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@bruce4 What does this mean then? EACH…
As part of his new deal, Gundy will receive a $1 million annual retention bonus each of the next five years.
He was calling that one guy who left, made a bet, names all the time. He called me stupid.
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