Random OSU Thoughts

Let players sign with agents allow agents to grant money to a player in advance of a professional contract but they can’t ‘loan’ it with a guarantee of repayment.
Now players who agents believe have a real future can legitimately make a living and agents are on the hook for making the right choices since any repayment is tied to future ‘pro sports’ earnings.
No pro contract no repayment

Do we think the P5 will ever break from the ncaa and form a pro-sports pre nfl league? Football and basketball only, same rules as the ncaa but each conference has a salary cap and all that.

I bet it would actually go to 4 leagues and the pac-12 would get raided by the big 12. Send west va to the ACC.

Add USC, UCLA, Washington, Oregon, Colorado.

Utah, wsu, the Arizona schools, and the nerds in silicon can fight for the last 2 spots.

The sec adds 2, big 10 adds 2 or ND +1. ACC adds 1 plus ND, or 2.

4 pods in each conference. 2 rounds for CC, 4 team playoff. Essentially a 16 team playoff. Win your pod and you’re in.

9 conference games. 3 OCC

Play the 3 in your pod 1
2 from pod 2
2 from pod 3
2 from pod 4.
The 2-4 pod games rotate, so you play the other 2 teams the next year. You play everyone in your conference every other year, and play everyone both home and away every 4.

Makes too much sense though.

Give me Stanford over UCLA every day.

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True true

Oh god you added a lot to that post…

And your last sentence is the most relevant. It makes too much sense and not enough money, so it’s not going to happen. Just something for us to debate on a message board.

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I accidentally hit reply when I wasn’t done.

Only if their band is banned…

Meh. I’m not an easily offended snowflake that cares about bits by a bunch of band nerds.

Simple answer, is the money there to make it worthwhile. If it is it will happen in some form, if not then no. And it has to be a significantly larger amount of money than the alternative. Note though this can be either due to an increase in potential money or due to a decrease in current money, or more likely something in between.

Their normal irreverent schtick? Not my thing, and I think it is tacky, but not that big a deal. But obnoxiously playing through the Fiesta Bowl award ceremony when Gundy was acknowledging Coach Budke’s wife… not acceptable. Ignoring Fiesta Bowl officials telling them to stop. THAT will stick with me.

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Larry Edward Coker (born June 23, 1948) is an American football coach and former player. From 2001 to 2006, he served as the head coach at the University of Miami. His 2001 Miami teamwas named the consensus national champion after an undefeated season that culminated with a victory in the Rose Bowl over Nebraska. In the process of winning the championship, Coker became the second head coach since 1948 to win the national championship in his first season.

While he didn’t sustain success hard to say a guy who won a natty is a terrible coach.

The filter that @kyleporterCBS has on this site has really cleaned up my vocabulary.

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Why not just have potential players sign over marketing rights to the school of their choice when signing their NLI or admission, and paying every player a larger stipend (salary) as compensation? They still get scholarship for college, chalk that up as $30K per year, and make the stipend $3K-$4K per month. The student athletes then do not have to pay for housing or weekly meals, so their gross income before taxes is around $66K- $78K plus whatever the aggregate living expenses are. The only taxable income then is the stipend amount. That seems pretty reasonable to me, its more than what many students make coming out of college.

This raises an issue I hadn’t thought of. If this is all just advertising for car lots and what not, won’t they just be paid as contractors with no tax withholding? Seems like we’d be setting a lot of people up for tax problems.

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Exactly what I was thinking. One great thing about college is it shields students in some regards from dealing with taxes as much, due to little to no taxable income.

It would be much easier if the students signed over their marketing rights in exchange for a flat payment per month for personal use rather than dealing with the licensing and marketing themselves. That also makes the situation more of a collective bargaining agreement with the university athletic department acting as the agent for all of their players.

I’ve been deep in this over the last hour or so, and I don’t think this is correct. I think it actually states the opposite – that schools can’t pay students, but rather that students can go to Car Dealer X and get $1K for saying that Subarus are cool.

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Here’s more on that – https://www.bannersociety.com/2019/10/1/20891260/california-ncaa-bill

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So basically it is going to be something that the NCAA just has a problem with. Correct me if I am wrong but I thought California actually put a time table on this that it does not start for a couple of years as they were hoping other states would join in so they would not have to battle the NCAA by themselves?

Didn’t uo lose a qb for this, really what this does is make boosters (ahem), people who donate philanthropically, to a school have even more power. It’s one thing if Chuba Hubbard the Soph/Jr Doak Walker candidate is selling old mother Hubbard cookies, but what’s to stop Jerry the used car guy from signing a recruit to a deal for his norman based dealership if he agrees to go to ou.
That’s the slope that could cause everyone to slide down and ultimately end college athletics as we know it.
Out of the box: college can pay a kid to come to school but they have a salary cap

DE #1 gets a 700k contract from which he pays for school and everything else. DE # 7 gets $90k because he’s not worth as much do away with scholarships and end the charade of amateurism.
Now you have a, mostly, free market and by instituting a cap you level the playing field.

We are a better fit for recruits from Tulsa in any sport. We need to make it out bread and butter which we are in hoops.