Report: Big 12 ADs Have 'Serious' Talks about Not Playing Texas Tech Following Sorsby Ruling

At least their fans and #1 will be Oklahoma LandSquatters fans. :joy_cat:

An article came out on ESPN about just exactly that you should read: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/49010107/big-12-talk-options-sorsby-trial-gets-post-season-date

Different article <link: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/49003512/coaches-ads-disgusted-stunned-brendan-sorsby-ruling>, this is pretty wild too: "In a memo to staff, Georgia forbade its school’s teams from playing Texas Tech, as per the document obtained by ESPN.

"Big Ten officials are expected to discuss in the upcoming days a leaguewide mandate to not schedule Texas Tech in any sports in the regular season, per three Big Ten sources. That came in the wake of Nebraska AD Troy Dannen telling ESPN that his school’s teams are also not allowed to schedule the Red Raiders.

“Please review your sport’s current schedules and future scheduling plans,” Georgia deputy athletic director for legal affairs and player management Will Lawler wrote in the email. "If you have contests currently scheduled against Texas Tech, or are actively engaged in scheduling discussions with Texas Tech, please notify your sports administrator as soon as possible so we can evaluate the situation and determine next steps.

“Effective immediately, no new contests should be scheduled against Texas Tech without prior approval from the athletic department.”

Dudes gonna be Billy Idoling outchea, “I’m dancing w/ myself, uh oh…” :sob: :rofl: :joy:

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I love it. Very, very rarely can you get everybody on the same page from every program in the country. Georgia, much like every other SEC program (or any program that has won anything in the Big 10) has done some shady/dirty stuff. But gambling on your team and seemingly getting away with it…is a bridge too far. I like it

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Now, yes. Nebraska was winning a lot in the 1990s but with the formation of the Big XII it was pretty much a consensus that the Big XII South was the toughest conference in football.

That lasted until e$pn started putting their economic and then propaganda in support of first the $ec and then the b10. Does anyone recall that e$pn circle love with saban after oSu lost to ISU (after the plane crash) then after demolishing the Sewerners the powers that be still gave saban his rematch and another national title?

A decade of favorable tv contracts and publicity CREATED that divide. Period, full stop.

oSu

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Yea and Herbie yelling at the top of his lungs we “didn’t look right “ something along those lines. Totally biased against us

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Yeah, and both DEs benched 400 - that defense was stalwart under Bill Young (IMHO the best DC under Gundy)! oSu beats LSU or Alabama that year - no matter what Les says.
CB Bulldog and Gilbert. LB Lavey, Lewis, and James Thomas. S Markell and Johnny Thomas. DT Nigel Nichols and

oSu

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I wanted the shot at LSU , wasn’t too sold on Alabama. I wanted the shot. I know that plane crash bothered those guy. Up what 24-6. And let them back Quinn was still good

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You could say OSU was the catalyst for the start of a CFP argument. Just think of how much favoritism the SEC would’ve gotten had it not extended.

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I disagree. His defense was terrible in 2012. He got fired after that season. Bill Young’s defense was predicated on trying to force turnovers. If they couldn’t, they were average at best. Jim Knowles was the best DC Gundy ever had. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have ended up at Ohio State. In fact, Knowles was only 1 of 2 DC under Gundy that didn’t get fired. The other one was Derek Mason that decided to leave after one season.

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That was arguably a good strategy in that era of the Big XII. No one was stopping anyone from moving the ball and scoring with all of the elite QB play and air raid schemes.

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That’s true but it was a high risk reward strategy. When it worked see 2011. When it didn’t see 2012.

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It’s good until it doesn’t work. That’s why Bill was fired in 2012.

DEFENSE
2011 456.8 ypg and 26.8 ppg [2012 lost senior DEs and enforcer Markell Martin that had freed up and protected Bulldog and Gilbert in 2011]
2012 421.7 ypg and 28.2 ppg

It was somewhere in this time that oSu allotted more recruits for the defense.

2012 Defense improved overall (Bulldog and Gilbert had no interceptions during regular season according to ai), despite losing emotional senior leaders and playmakers - R. Jones, Blatnik, and Martin.

No idea why Bill Young was fired unless there was a concern about his health. Defense had fewer turnovers but was statistically improved and looked promising with Barnett and Castleman on the interior and Peterson at CB. Still scratching my head - did Gundy think Glen would leave?

oSu

Exactly. Which is why I said they were average at best when they couldn’t force any turnovers. OSU was a top 10 defense for turnover margin in 2010 and 2011. In 2012, they ended up 104th in the country.

You also need to take into account we were mostly blowing teams out in 2011. Which is why we gave up more yards per game. We weren’t playing the starters during the 4th quarter (or sometimes second half) of most games. We weren’t blowing most teams out in 2012. Those are the differences between 2011 and 2012.

“Now, yes. Nebraska was winning a lot in the 1990’s…Big 12 South was the toughest in football”. The regular/original Big 12 was 1996-2010. Nebraskas biggest run was while they were in the Big 8. The SEC from 1996-2010 was far more dominant than the Big 12. The numbers show that. The South division had OU & Texas that dominated it. Thats it. It was a tough division…but so was the SEC. The Big 12 won three titles during that span with OU/TX/Nebraska. The SEC won with Bama, Florida, LSU, Auburn, & Tennessee. I get the dislike of the SEC, but people cant argue that they are and have been the best Conf in the last 30 years

Almost every announcer said the Big XII “South” was the toughest league in the nation. Don’t think that is disputable! Arguable, yes, and have at it if you’re real keen on defending the liars and cheats from the $ec. I personally didn’t argue whether they were right or wrong in saying it was toughest. Besides, oSu beat Alabama, Georgia, and Mississippi State at that time - I think they’re $ec… and in 2011, oSu would have disappointed Les if e$pn didn’t put their thumb on the scale!

But it’s FUNNY that as oSu began to regularly beat aTm, they left the league with their tail between their legs; oSu began beating Texas regularly and they started looking to leave, then the Sewerners or the followers, followed Texas like they always seem to do now. Where are they now - with the biggest cheaters in college football in the last 40 years, the great(cheaters) $ec - guess they fit that league better. And all on here recall the Sewerners only won on NC that didn’t land them on probation, so perhaps they got this one right.

Finally, you mentioned texas and the Land Thieves as tough opponents but failed to mention TT and aTm. Those teams were quite often in the Top 10 - so what are you even talking about? Even Baylor got their act together. Not really understanding your post because the Big XII South clearly passed the eye test.

Have a great day!

oSu

Wow. A lot to unpack here. Lots of hurt feelings.

“Besides, oSu beat Alabama, Georgia, and Mississippi State at that time” From the formulation of the regular Big 12 (1996-2010), OSU had a losing record against the SEC (3-4). If you run that out from 1996 to current, OSU is 7-7 agsint the SEC. The win against Bama was over 20 years ago and the UGA win was 18 years ago.

Maybe OSU wouldve won it in 2011. Who knows. I do think its comical to assume the team that lost to Iowa St wouldve automatically beaten a Saban coached Alabama team.

I also find it comical that OSU ran A&M off, even though A&M went 10-5 against them. OSU ran Texas off? Texas went 18-10 against OSU, including winning 3 of the last 5…& the final Big 12 Championship

About the only thing you got right was OU/Texas joining the SEC having “cheaters”. I agree that virtually every program in the SEC has had multiple instances of cutting some corners. But, I think you may be surprised at who has had more sanctions with the NCAA when you compare OU/OSU/Texas. The Cowboys have not been lily white either.

Dont take my word for it or yours when comparing the W-l, National Champions from the Big 12 VS the SEC. The numbers speak for themselves. Its ok to hate the SEC and OU/TX, but to say anything less than the SEC has been the most dominant conference just makes you sound silly.

Would’ve been LSU, not Bama. He might’ve said Bama, but that’s not who we would’ve played.

The circumstances surrounding the Iowa St. game were weird. No excuse to not handle a… what were they… 3 win team? But I think some of the surrounding factors made the squink more likely to happen. Some still say we did win, but it should’ve never been close enough for a tight field goal call to decide it.

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I’d argue they haven’t been for the last 3 years. I’d also argue that before the CFP the SEC has always been given the benefit of the doubt as well. There’s always been a favoritism biased from ESPN and other committees toward that conference. Let’s not sit here and ignore those facts my man.

Yea…..let’s also just forget the made FG that was obvious on film that more than likely was going to give OSU the win. Only an SEC team would get the benefit of the doubt.