Replace a Dunn with a Monken type then you wouldn’t have to worry about it.
Are we playing in last season or this season? Who’s really the one all over the place? If you want to keep living in the past that’s fine. I’m more worried about fixing the present so the future doesn’t look bleak.
You totally ignored what I said about the OL in another article. They themselves said it’s an execution issue. Obviously, any person with a half-functioning brain would tell you that if you don’t have the personnel able to execute what you want then you change it up. You’re right in exactly what I said. Running trap and outside zone isn’t creative. It’s a basic scheme and concept. All this does is prove the following:
- Dunn isn’t creative at all
- He can execute basic schemes and concepts
- He hasn’t even tried other basic schemes and concepts
The core issue is that every defense is stuffing the gaps that Dunn loves to run Ollie through. Running trap, in a sense, would help alleviate some of those issues (ideally) and Dunn hasn’t figured that out.
If Dunn actually ran some outside zone (with a back that’s good in space btw) you might actually see Ollie take off and get a rush for more than three yards. Seal off the edge of the DL and pick up the OLB and let Ollie do his thing. Strictly trying to run him between the gaps has proven it doesn’t work, and it’s not going to unless OSU has an advantage on the numbers across that defensive front.
Thanks for agreeing. Then you should also be clamoring on here for change as well. However, you won’t because going 6-6 is good enough for you.
You’re right. I don’t want to have the lead and leave the 128th ranked pass defense on the field all the time that can’t even cover with eight defenders. Look at what happened on the very last possession of the Arkansas game. They marched right down the field in 50 seconds with no timeouts to send it to OT. I’ll ask this question again. Do you even watch the games?
That’s if the other team isn’t good enough in coverage for the short passing game. Otherwise, you’re punting the ball back in no time to the opposing offense. The first half of the Arkansas game was a prime example of this. Again, do you watch the games?
I didn’t say they needed to run when 8 are in the box. If you actually paid attention to Gundy’s press conference after the Tulsa game. He said “they’re putting an extra MAN (not men) in the box”. He didn’t say they’re stacking 8 in the box every single time. I keep telling you guys they have our scheme figured out. Even if we have even numbers across the line it’s not going to matter all that much. Which is why I’ll say it again. Try some trap or outside zone.
If you don’t like it then you should be requesting Dunn to change up his insanity. Bowman can only do so much, and adjust based on what he’s seeing on the field. Sure would be nice to have a competent and basic running game to accommodate him.
Hey champ,
Yes, I watch the games, thanks for asking every three lines! I will be at the game on Saturday! What else would you like to know about my plans? At first I thought it was weird of you to keep asking, but I put myself in your shoes ans imagined what it would be like being a lonely shut-in living in mom’s basement with nothing to keep me going but raving about the staff of a college football team. I realized you’re just trying to live vicariously, so you can ask about any of my experiences and hobbies, just make your bed for mom’s sake once in a while is all I ask.
The difference is that I watch the whole game and don’t obsess over the four plays that support my position. Running outside has not been working. Ollie hasn’t been making it to the edge and has been getting run out of bounds. It worked on one big play against Arkansas. Because it doesn’t support your position, you’ve ignored the plays where it failed. This is called confirmation bias.
Let me explain some football to you. An extra man (not men) in the box is 8! The standard configuration is a 3-4 or a 4-3 (though we run a 3-3-5), so 7 is normal, 8 is one man extra! Not to get too technical here, but 3 + 4 = 7 (also 4 + 3 = 7!) and if you add 1 to 7, you get 8! The defenses have been doing 7½ (this is a hybrid, RPO-like position on defense where a guy plays close and can drop into coverage on a pass or stay in the box on a run!) or 8 men regularly. This is why an average QB like Bowman is closing in on 1,000 yards after three games.
Bill Bill Bill life is so simple to you. No wonder you say the things that you do.
Careful using those fractions, I detect steam coming from certain trolls ears, smooth brains in flames. Just to help the trolls out here so they don’t have to do the complicated maths one can visualize that half man by looking at the D alignment. One example is high and low safeties. The low guy (one close to the line of scrimmage) is your half man in the box. See no need for your fingers and toes to figure it out.
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Just wanted to make sure you answered the question, and I don’t care about your plans.
And exactly how many times did we attempt it?
That’s fine, but the issue is they haven’t been stacking 8 in the box every single time as you’ve implied. If anything, they’ve rarely done it. I know what a “box” is. The fact is it’s our scheme that’s the huge problem. Your 4-3 or 3-4 isn’t unusual, and it’s not like other coaches who possess a top of the line running back have not ever faced it with an extra defender.
Dunn not being able to figure this out for an entire half is what should really be concerning to you. Then perhaps the OSU offense should consider running a couple of heavy formations Les Miles style with a PA pass over the top or extra blockers for the run or pop pass across the middle. I will say I’m glad we finally figured out the TE is a great asset to have in the receiving game. Looks like we learned a lesson from Virginia finally.
It’s simple. Don’t hire D2 coaches that can’t have a top 100 defense, and don’t hire WR coaches that have no previous experience as an OC.
Hey champ,
What year is this? Why would we run heavy sets to force the run when, again, the main reasons you run is to loosen up the defense and open up the offense. If they’re already giving us all the open looks in the passing game we want, why would we pull receivers out to meet them strength on strength?
They aren’t going 8 in the box on every play, no, but generally it’s 3rd down when they’re putting guys in coverage. I actually think we should try to run on 3rd and medium in these situations, but we’re hitting receivers still, so… it works until it doesn’t.
Then what if you happen to have a game where your passing game is off? That happened early on in the Arkansas game. I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to be down by double digits at the half again. Especially when we’re playing the #12 team in the country.
Hey champ,
Ok, so which thing would be easier to get going? The part of the game that they’re loading up to stop or the part of the game they’re giving to you?
“Man, we can’t hit wide open receivers. I guess we should stop trying and run at 8 man fronts.”
No. You figure out how to get it going. Go to the QB’s comfort routes. Throw some screens to get his confidence up. If you can’t take what they’re giving you, then you lose. You aren’t playing well enough to win.
The parts of the game they’re giving to you. Still doesn’t solve the issue if they’re able to stop both. You should always institute a third option. That’s what good leaders do. If you’re not willing to do that. Then you’re not working for what you’re being paid.