Originally published at: https://pistolsfiringblog.com/three-burning-questions-as-oklahoma-state-starts-fall-camp/
On the QBs, the O-line and the defense.
Fix the OL and youâll help fix the defense. You canât keep punting the ball and expect the defense to be out in the field 75% of the time and make continuous stops when the offense canât sustain a scoring drive. Jim Knowles is no longer in Stillwater.
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Giving up 4.5 ypc is not success.
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Gundyâs logic on choosing QB1 is so stupid. Iâd rather know I have the wrong guy right off the bat, and get the right guy in thereâŚversus not knowing because it puts the entire offense and offensive coaches in a massive bind. I do not want this battle spilling into the season. If Gundy is not going to make the call, then Meach needs toâŚ.and do it before game 1.
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Wanna know how to tell that our OC has a different set of skills? Mike Gundy was for years, stalwart in the idea that we have to recruit to fit OKST system. That did not change, even with NIL.
Fastforward to Meachum: We have to build our scheme around our talent!
I love this idea, and believe Gundy should have been this way ten years ago. Within reason.
You can only mod your system so much to include your current squad. But the fact that they are willing to now is a blessing.
I am excited to see what a pair of new coordinators will bring to OKST. Especially on D. Graham sounds like a grizzled peice of old man coach who plans on crunching some diamonds out of our coalminers.
Go Pokes.
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New OL=need a QB who can run
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I donât disagree here, mostly because I think thatâs whatâs hurt us the last few seasons. I think Gundy had become disengaged last season, and the coaches we had sucked, so⌠Anyway, hoping the new staff has better decision making abilitiesâŚ
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Gundyâs been disengaged for a while. Admin gave him a long overdue wake up call.
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Iâm pretty sure that the decision is primarily in our OCâs hands. Picking the wrong QB or delaying a choice will be HCMG fault in that he hired the wrong OC. So if you want to blame someone for the actual decision look to the OC.
Yep that is the assumption until we actually see them on the field
Thatâs fair and reasonable.
âWe have to build our offense around the availability we have at quarterback,â OSU coach Mike Gundy said at Big 12 Media Days. âDifferent than in the past, we recruited a certain type of player. âŚ
We recruited a certain kind of player? You mean statuesque QBs to run a RPO, Zone-read offense? We havenât recruited the kind of QB Gundyâs offense needed since Sanders. So not sure I can concur with his revisionist history, which concerns me about what weâll get this year.
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When Monken was the OC we were forced to rotate three different quarterbacks on offense during the 2012 season. We didnât miss a beat, and we still finished 4th in the country in overall offense.
When Dunn was the OC. We tried forcing our âplaybookâ onto what doesnât match our talent and skill level. For example, running a draw with Bowman that has the speed of a sloth.
So itâs not always the QB thatâs the issue. As long as you can recognize and evaluate properly. Like Monken did in 2012. The difference is we adjusted our offense to whoever was taking the snaps. With Dunn, we waited until halfway through the season before doing that same thing.
Thatâs the difference. Being smart enough to hire someone that recognizes a problem, and addresses it quickly. Not someone who canât figure it out after five years (aka Dunn), and just throwing a prayer up to the almighty that it all works out. Most people worth 7 mil a year would do what we used to do, not become complacent hire people nobody has ever heard of, or want for that matter.
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Outside of Zach Robinson and Spencer Sanders Gundy has ALWAYS preferred a QB that maintains a presence in the pocket. The issue with that is it doesnât work if you donât ever address OL issues. Last year was evidence of what happens when you canât run the ball with a pocket QB and bad OL play. Just like we did with Dax in 2014.
He never learned his lesson from any of it previously. Not saying you need a dude with blazing speed to run RPO. However, it not going to work with a slow footed QB and an OL that canât push a defender 6 inches away from the los so we might be able to move the ball down the field.
Gundy is the kind of coach that would rather not risk getting the QB injured, punt, and lose 52-0, rather than try to move the ball down field to and maybe win the game.
I agree with this post. I think the question thatâs glaring is whether our new OC is someone who can maximize his players or will he be more like Dunn who was intent on running his offense regardless of player skillsets. I truly have no idea what Meachamâs offense is going to look like.
I donât care if we go on 8 minute drives to score as long as the other offense stays off the field and canât score consistently. My hope is Gundy doesnât interject himself into anything unless itâs absolutely necessary. Even then, I still donât trust his instincts any longer. Itâs 2025 now and what worked in 2006 may not apply today.
For my own sanity I donât read @bill18 posts so canât comment directly. Do you really think that Meacham is going to be like Dunn?? Seems like a silly possibility to me. Also with a brand new roster things can go south just by virtue of that. Of course the trolls will blame Gundy regardless of where the real issues lie.
Things can also go south when you return the most starters in the conference with inadequate coaching. Which we had just witnessed last season by finishing dead last with no conference wins.
I may be one of the âtrollsâ as Iâm someone whoâs ready to move past Gundy. That said, I never said that Meechâs offense would be like Dunnâs. I said that Dunn ran an offense that wasnât suited for the personnel on the roster and neither Dunn nor Gundy seemed to make effort to adjust. As for Meech, Iâve been explicit in several posts: I have zero idea what his offense is going to look like, and whether he will mold the offense to maximize the roster or try to pigeon hole players into âhisâ system (whatever it might be).
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No you are not a troll. Meech has some history coaching so if you wanted to get an idea you could go down that rabbit hole and research it. As for me Iâm too lazy. I prefer to just wait and see what happens.