The problem is gundy’s still the coach.
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Hey champ,
What the hell are you talking about? Did we have a recruiting issue before now? We’re talking about Flores potentially starting this year. Rangel and Smith got picked up by other P4 schools. Bowman got us to the conference game and beat OU. Bowman was only our QB because Sanders ducked out. Sanders was a good QB. Is there a Big XII school that doesn’t have poor QB play in a one-off season? No, this is smooth-brained.
Did Bowman lead us to a conference title? Did Bowman get us at least one conference win last season. Did Bowman get to keep his position? Where was Bowman during the BYU game? Oh yeah, he was sitting on the bench while Rangel led us to a halftime lead before being hurt 
. Bowman couldn’t even get 2nd string at a BB. So which one is it? Is it the coaching or our QB?
Smith went to Ole Miss where they currently have six quarterbacks on their roster. He’s not even a projected starter. Rangel went to VT where he’s one of five quarterbacks on that roster. Not a projected starter.
The fact that both of those guys got a nod over Bowman tells me we had some serious QB evaluation issues last season. Coupled with incompetent coaching. Hint why we went 0-9 in the conference.
Hey champ,
I can’t even get into a delusional headspace to entertain the stupid crap you just said, so I’m just going to make fun of you.
1.) No one in the history of ever is benching a returning starter who led your team to a turnaround and gave you some promising success. Except the Baltimore Ravens after they won a title with Dilfer and that decision ended up being retarded. If that’s on the table, we have to give Gundy credit for everytime he started a returning starter. He started Brandon Weeden in 2011! Brilliant!
2.) Your one half of football evaluation of Rangel is… so you. One half of football is… meaningless. So many QBs have good halves, games, hell you think Bowman had a pretty good season and was still trash. Your brain is broken. I just can’t.
I never said you should. However, it doesn’t take two full blowouts to pull the guy .
Brandon Weeden never got benched, and he never mind as blowout twice in a row .
When they give you your first halftime lead of the season against a P4 opponent it does. I’ve also never said Bowman was pretty good. I’ve always thought he was average at best.
Hey champ,
Correct. It didn’t. He was benched in the midst of the first loss. Rangel somehow did even worse and couldn’t take the job.
Sure, but if you’re saying Bowman shouldn’t have started at the beginning of last season, it would’ve been an extraordinarily gutsy call. I think it was still pretty gutsy to bench him before the Utah game was over.
No. No, it doesn’t. One half of a game means nothing. It’s not an adequate sample size. You could have a good feeling about what you saw, but that guy has been shipped out of town now.
It’s a shame that both of you can’t admit quarterback recruiting has been sub-par to win the conference for 20 years. One time saved by a walk on.
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Hey champ,
So all of our QBs were crap except Weeden? Rudolph? Robinson? Sanders? All garbage? Cool. Go away and never come back.
Gutsy? Bowman was 8-22 for 89 yards, 1 interception, and no touchdowns in the first half. That’s almost like saying it was gutsy for him to take out Alex Cate against Colorado 
. It’s not gutsy to take a guy out that clearly isn’t getting you anywhere. Coaches do it all the time.
Hey champ,
You can’t rewrite history. The fanbase was split after the benching in the Utah game. Lots of people were saying it cost OSU the game because Bowman mounted that comeback and almost pulled it off. We know his instincts were right and it was a good call in hindsight, but he was getting a lot of second guessing at the time.
“quarterback recruiting has been sub-par to win the conference for 20 years.”
Which one won the conference? Cause I missed it. Or which one went on to prove tĥat they were being held back in Stillwater?
Brock Purdy never won the conference but proved he was better than Iowa State could get him to.
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Hey champ,
1.) The QB isn’t the whole team.
2.) It’s not like Weeden’s NFL career was anything special.
3.) You didn’t think any of this through before you started running your mouth as usual.
Except he didn’t. He had an entire first half to prove that wasn’t the case. He ALMOST did it. Maybe it was the coaching?
The exact reason I mentioned Brock Purdy.
Yet he did enough to win the conference. Something none of the 3 you mentioned were able to do.
While I point out results, you just try to insult.
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Hey champ,
I like Purdy, but let’s not act like he wasn’t dropped into arguably the most talented roster in the NFL. We’ll seen if he can be successful now that he’s getting paid.
You don’t even realize you’re arguing against yourself. You know who else didn’t win the conference? Patrick Mahomes, the best QB alive, who unlike Purdy, has won a Superbowl with an otherwise average roster. Putting “not winning a conference” on not getting good enough QBs and then trying to tie that to an NFL career to prove your point is… ignorant.
You get insulted because your comments warrant it. Stupid people get called stupid. Deal with it.
I’m not arguing against myself, they haven’t been good enough to win the conference and when given a chance after that, they’ve been sub-par there also.
Hey champ,
So, why didn’t tech win with Mahomes? Not good enough QB recruiting? Why did K-State win with Colin Klein? Excellent QB recruiting?
What’s infuriating about you people is you don’t take circumstance into account. You don’t take luck into account. You don’t take probability into account. You just think we should be winning every year and you pick whatever sounds good in the moment and put the blame there. It’s boneheaded. I agree. Ideally, we would’ve won the conference again once or twice. We had a couple years when someone just has to make one more yard or someone just has to hang on to the interception. One play away. That’s frustrating as hell. I get it, but it’s just entitled nonsense to think we should’ve had that. Nothing is owed to you. Even if we did everything 100% right every year, that’s no guarantee that we win anything ever. That’s how life works, snowflakes.
Yea, but was he on the most talented roster at Iowa State? He played for a conference title just like Bowman did. The difference is he was worthy enough to be drafted.
Just like how Brandon Weeden won the conference with an average roster outside of Blackmon and Randle. Let’s not sit here and act like he was on the Bama or Ohio State talent rich rosters. The difference was he had coaching. Which we haven’t had since Knowles left.
Hey champ,
I thought Joe Wickline had the most consistent offensive lines in college football?
Justin Gilbert was an 8th pick in the 1st round of the NFL. Markelle Martin was a 6th round pick.
He did. You keep missing the point of what I keep saying. That was a time when we had actual coaching to make up for whatever raw talent we didn’t have. I think the inconsistency of the OL since 2014 pretty much proves my point. Outside of 2019 and 2023 we’ve largely been average to below average when it comes to running the ball.
Yep, and Bama had 8 players drafted in the 2012 draft alone. You’ve proven my point again. Weeden won the conference without being on a talent rich roster. Coaching does wonders, and we haven’t had it since Knowles left 
.