Originally published at: https://pistolsfiringblog.com/why-im-alright-with-this-quarterback-battle-taking-time-to-work-out/
This battle could be the start of stability at QB for the Cowboys.
I wish Gundy would tell the media, “Ask Johns or Meacham. They are deciding QB1. Not me.” I’d feel a hell of a lot better if I knew Gundy was staying out of it.
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Why do I get this feeling we’ll see two different quarterbacks with equal time at Oregon?
Hey champ,
Because you’re a troll.
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I like the mentality of having your leader earn it and “prove” they are the guy, QB wise.
I feel the max gain for such a philosophy isn’t as great as other choices, but I digress, risk management trumps max min applications.
I look forward to what a new OC and QB Coach will bring to our QB development. I’m under the impression none of the QB Coaches / OC choices past the Monken Weeden Era have done a thing to systemically improve the QB play for the guys who did earn their spot.
Aside from minor improvements to their respective QB output numbers, they generally stayed the same. Corneilus is my favorite example of just how consistent the play was.
I am blindly picking Haas to start due to time in the game alone. I hope Flores proves me wrong, would love to see a young gunslinger blow up Oregon shocking the College Football World.
Go Pokes.
I’m not completely against some degree of sharing time at QB IF they are both talented quarterbacks, otherwise go with the better one. I think the problem with recent quarterback sharing is that the players had less than average talent. Solve this by recruiting better and coaching better (and give them some mop up time snaps in games). With this said, I am hoping these two kids are better than average.
Unlike @bill18 I’ve seen both in practice and there’s a reason no one has been named yet. Both have skills, although different. Both have moments of brilliance and “what the hell was that?”. Zach has a gun for an arm, Hauss runs a 10.6 100. I’m comfortable and nervous with each. Let’s see what plays out.
Better hope the coaching is up to par then. Otherwise, you’ll see these player’s future draft stock go down if they’re good enough. Don’t believe me? Ask Ollie.
Chump, it’s because Gundy is still the head coach and he has a proven history of screwing up QB1.
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The buck certainly stops with Gundy, but when it comes to the QB I also don’t discount Rattay’s contribution to screw up that position. Getting rid of him was long overdue.
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Agreed. Rattay added nothing of value to the program.
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Hey champ,
Laziest, most overblown critique of Gundy. OMG he started Alex Cate for a half before Brandon Weeden 15 years ago!1!1!!!1
Sometimes you have to do your due diligence running a guy out there. Sometimes you get a highly rated guy and want to make him work. Sometimes guys aren’t ready, the coach plays them when they are ready and he plays well so you mistakenly assume they were ready the whole time. OU has been a QB clinic during Gundy’s tenure and they’ve arguably made roughly the same number head-scratching “mistakes” during Gundy’s tenure. Starting Trevor Knight, Rattler over Williams, dropping Gabriel then flip flopping Arnold and Hawkins, etc.
11 conference championships compared to 1. Beating Gundy with a tight end playing quarterback. Their head scratching mistakes during Gundy’s tenure somehow don’t seem near as stupid.
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Hey champ,
Please say something intelligent. Once. In your life. Please.
My post wasn’t about Cate over Weeden specifically. That’s one example. Reid over Z-Rob. The whole Rangel, Gunnar, and Bowman shitshow. Not giving Spencer his 4 extra games that he could’ve used to prepare him for the next season. Not sticking with Clint Chelf back when he was the better option at the time. Gundy’s tenure is littered with QB1 mistakes.
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I absolutely agree with your points on OU screwing up QB1. They’ve had their fair share. Hopefully, Mateer is a complete bust this year. Cause they put ALL their eggs in that basket. If their offense isn’t fixed, Venables is fired. 
I hope they go 0-12, but I’d settle for 4-8.
This is what I mean, though. Sometimes you almost have to make the mistake. When you have Reid, our best rated QB recruit ever, and you start Robinson, the fanbase is going to be pissed. No matter how good Robinson was, the fanbase is going to say Reid would be better. Every loss is a game, in their mind, Reid could’ve won. You all but have to let that play out on the field. It’s easy to see these things in hindsight like people wouldn’t have been burning down the stadium. There was actually a split in the fanbase between Reid and Robinson at the time. I credit him for making the right call and picking production over stars.
I don’t think he bungled it at all. You have to be sure your prize recruit is a bust. You can’t leave that as a what-if.
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The real problem is crap recruiting where you have Rangel Gunnar and Bowman. And let’s not forget Taylor Cornelius so we could go 3-6 in conference. But you Gundy worshipers are fine with 2-7 in conference just as long as we make another crappie bowl.
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Yes, hindsight is 20-20. But here’s thing….when Gundy makes a mistake, it takes entirely too long to correct it. He usually doesn’t until his hand is forced due to injury or complete lack of production over an extended period of time. If I gave two guys equal reps in game 1, and player A is clearly better than player B, but I start B in game 2 anyway because…he’s a senior, and we lose…I ■■■■well better be prepared to start player A the next game, as opposed to letting B lead us to a second loss.
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Hey champ,
For the love of… whatever demon spawned you, shut up. You’ve said this tired line 5 million times. How are you not tired of yourself? It’s got to he exhausting to be this unthoughtful.