Originally published at: 10 Thoughts on Oklahoma State’s 19-12 Loss to Tulsa
Three games into the season and things are already getting dark.
- We the “trolls” tried telling you Gundy would be going the Gary Patterson route.
- This team looks like the Kansas of old (maybe worse).
- Gundy just got schooled by a 36 year old coach, with a 28-27 record, and only in his fourth game as a D1 HC.
- Gundy lost to a coaching staff that has less experience and less talent (maybe less talent?)
- We used to score a touchdown in two minutes or less against a team like Tulsa. Tonight, it took more than three quarters.
- Our offense looks like it’s led by Brian Ferentz, and the defense by Alex Grinch.
- The NIL excuse is out the window from what we know now. It’s clearly piss poor coaching and execution.
- I said I didn’t think hiring formerly fired nearly 60 year old coaches was the route to go. I think Tre Lamb helped me prove my point.
- I said I thought OSU would barely win or possibly lose before the game started.
- Gundy needs to be gone asap. He’s gone from being the best coach in school history to setting terrible historic OSU football records.
Please come after me and tell me I’m wrong. Please bring your irrational and pathetic reasoning as to why he should still be employed at OSU. This should be gold 
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@PistolsFiring you all need to check on your website. It’s getting flooded with spam bots.
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To every single person who has ever ripped me for wanting Gundy gone for years, who said “You can’t fire a legend after one terrible season” or “Give him a chance to right the ship”…choke on that L. This is what happens when leadership above a head coach doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to make the hard but necessary decisions.
- Have Gundy announce his resignation on Monday morning.
- If he refuses, fire him. Do it with cause, without cause…doesn’t matter.
- Pay the buyout. Or take him to court. A legal battle is a perfect distraction from what is happening on-the-field.
- People keep trying to tell me that Chad is good at his job. If he didn’t call Zac Robinson last night, he’s not that great at it.
- At least make Z-Rob say no.
- Then call Ben Arbuckle.
- Then call GJ Kinne.
- Work on down the list. Whatever Chad’s list looks like is probably fine, as long as he has one.
- If Chad does not care to make these decisions, step down and let someone more qualified to run the department.
- Last night was perfect evidence that for its entire history, Oklahoma State University refuses to care about winning in football. Shut the program down. Drop all other programs down a competitive level. Then dominate.
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Except for your last point, I could not have said it better myself.
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I know #10 isn’t financially feasible because football pays for all of the other sports, but I’m right. At every important crossroads in program history, administration shows that it refuses to care if we win championships in football. And if we aren’t doing everything in our power to compete for a championship, then what’s the point?
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Eric Morris at UNT is a better candidate than any of the people you listed:
- Offensive genius
- Proven winner as head coach
- Was a successful OC in the conference
- Long standing history of recruiting in State of Texas
- Extremely adept at developing QBs
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Folks, we held our opponent last night to nearly FOUR TIMES fewer points than the previous game. And we scored FOUR TIMES more points than the previous game. It’s obvious things are trending positively.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to stick a fork in an electrical outlet…
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Great pick. I’d take him. Absolutely anything is better than what we have currently.
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Unfortunately I think our problems run even deeper than coaches or player talent. The complete ineptitude of the AD and okst administration has a lot of trickle down effects. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are donors who will never give money to Okst again after how corrupt and awful kayce shrum was. The whole organization needs a hard reset.
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I’m certain to receive some trolls regarding my question. Take it as you like. “Can anyone tell me of a team who has fired their HC in mid-season and been successful the rest of the year???” Recent history (I have found) shows 3 occasions and the best post firing record was .500. Not great. Who should be the interim HC? My concern would be completely destroying future recruiting classes, potential transfer prospects and finding a new staff who is not constantly looking over their shoulders each week. I don’t know the best answer.
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Settle down and take a deep breath.
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Ideally, if Gundy actually loves oSu as he claims then he should announce his retirement at the end of the year (players can’t leave), and there is no buyout (least he can do after not earning his pay the past several years), and oSu can use that money elsewhere (buyout this staff???).
GoPokes
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How? Because I care that people might want to support the school at some point because it is run well?
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Yes, this is true. This is an institutional disaster. When your BoR is publicly fighting with itself, the coach, the donors, the AD, and the president in the offseason and then you fire the president for corruption, are rumored to be firing the AD, will be firing the coach, you’re at the nadir.
This is a bigger problem than hiring a new coach is going to fix. That’s one piece, but I don’t think it’s the biggest piece. Make a clean break, fine, but I don’t see a path forward to when we’re going to be relevant again. We have to build a path first.
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I don’t think it really matters if players leave there’s no talent anyways
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I agree with you. The only benefit to firing your coach midseason is making people feel better like you’re doing something. It’s performative.
People brought up negative recruiting when you have a lame duck coach, but I don’t see that as any different than having an interim coach. It’s the same uncertainty. You can’t really start a coaching search midseason. You’re not really going to promote an interim at year end in a failing program.
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Mike Gundy’s revenge season
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Terrible analogy, but here goes: If you were in the ER because you accidentally cut off part of a finger chopping veggies in the kitchen, how soon would you like your pain meds? Before or after they try sewing your finger back on?! He needs to be gone now and start the coaching search now while an interim is named. Not after the season.
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