We played 4 teams that finished in the top 25 this season (excluding our bowl game) and nobody expected Tulsa would be a top 25 team let alone a bowl eligible team.
Last season we played 3 teams that finished in the top 25. So let’s not overplay it when you make that statement.
What’s this excluding stuff. Ksu lost their qb or they would be there blah blah u didnt talk about 2018
Yeah…I’m sure Gundy went into Holder’s office in 2014 and said “You know what Mike…I’m pretty excited about playing the defending national champions with the third youngest returning team in the NCAA.”
Two national titles in the last 62 years and you classify them as a blue-blood?
Just like jimmy Johnson losing to west Texas state and 2 two san Diego state. Power houses
Okay Robert. So we played 5 ranked teams out of our 11 games THIS season. You go ahead and tell me how many teams we’ve played since 2015 that have finished in the top 25 in every season since then. I’m willing to bet it’s not 5-6 teams besides this season.
There a top 15 program by the people who know. Auburn would have more if not on probation every teen yrs
Neither am I. Just responding to him saying Tennessee could have been good when OU played them. I made the point that you can’t cherry pick what teams you want to say are good and what teams you don’t want to say are good, thus the ULL example. When you schedule games years in advance you have no clue how that team will be performing when you actually play them. OSU played teams like WSU, Oregon state, Miss state, etc in down years. Just how it worked out. If they would have played miss state one year later, it would have been a great win, Dak took that team deep. Same could go for OU scheduling UCLA before they spiraled out of control. It’s all about timing.
Please read each of my previous ten thousand comments where in each one of them I said Bama was the outlier.
Spencer rattler has never witnessed an Oklahoma football championship and he claimed “we’re used to winning national titles here”. What’s the difference?
Call me pessimistic but it seems like a Big 12 team could beat Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson and win out the rest of their season, and still not make the CFP. The pollsters would make up reasoning like they do every year. The CFP, like the former BCS, is about eyes on a screen first, and football second. No shade on the top programs but it’s painfully obvious (to me) that advertising dollars determines postseason matchups.
We played 5 in 2018 u want to pick on someone go pick on the pac 12 like always u pick and choose and do a poor job at it give it up
From 2004-2010 Washington State won 25 games total (3.5 per season). We played them in 2008-2010. We knew how bad they were.
From 2013-2018 Oregon State won 21 games total (3.5 per season). We played them in 2019 and were scheduled to play them this past season. We knew how bad they were.
From 2007-2012 Mississippi State won 41 games total (6.8 per season). We only played them once in 2013. We knew they were an okay program.
So my point is that we looked at the trends of the programs when we scheduled them because we knew they were either bad or average. If your trying to convince me that we didn’t know how good they would be In just not seeing it. The Central Michigan debacle even further proves my point as to why Gundy doesn’t want to play teams that present him a challenge any longer in the non-conference.
I guess the difference is historically speaking they have won several national titles and conference titles. So he’s essentially saying they are invested in trying to win a national title.
The OSU players aren’t used to that type of environment. Gundy’s last 9 classes don’t know what it’s like to win a conference title or play in a CFP game. When the coach sets 4th place as the annual standard then expect the team to look like a 4th place team.
We played 4 teams that FINISHED in the top 25 in 2018. We also lost to K State (5-7), TCU (6-6), Iowa State (8-4), Baylor (6-6), Tech (5-7), OU (12-2).
If your going to cherry pick something then make sure your right first, and don’t forget to mention all the average to below average teams we lost to. Your bragging about the teams we played in 2018 when we still went 7-6 and finished 9th in the conference.
No one in the conference knows what it’s like to win a conference title or play in a CFP game but OU ever since the conference title was formed.
True for WSU and OSU, but they missed the mark on a top 10 MSU team by one year. And the flip could be said about FSU, they went from national champions, to national title participants, to a complete dumpster fire of a program in a span of 4 seasons. They also have Boise and Oregon who are always legit on their upcoming schedules, and finalized home and homes with Arkansas and Nebraska, who may or may not improve by the time they play them, and are in talks for home and homes with Michigan state and Utah. You just don’t know what a school will be like 3-4 years out, and that’s how most programs have to schedule games with other P5 schools. Teams outside of the Bamas and clemsons of the world are so up and down. Look at Baylor for instance, they had a 1-11 season, then a 11-3 season, then a 2-7 season all within a 4 year period.
I’m not saying OSU has great non-con schedules year in and year out, they don’t. But it’s better than pretty much everyone else in the conference outside of OU and Texas, which makes a lot of sense. At least they aren’t Baylor, playing the 8th grade girls school for the blind and deaf 3 times in a row every year.
That’s true. I just wish these kids could at least experience what it’s like to play in a conference title game. Iowa State, TCU, Baylor, and Texas figured it out. Maybe one day Gundy can figure it out.
I know we’ll always have our own opinions about the successes and failures of Gundy, but that’s one we can definitely agree on. There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for not playing for a single conference title game (or de facto conference title game) since 2013. “Technically”, they did it in 2015 in bedlam but there was no shot they were winning that game and they ended up getting obliterated to boot. I think he has a lot of pretty impressive stuff on his resume considering the program he’s in charge of, but he’s shown that he is completely unable to find a way to stop losing to crappy teams every year, which leads to him never being able to make it to a title game. That’s unacceptable. Maybe 2016 bedlam was a de facto title game too, I can’t remember. I don’t think it was. Either way, he blew that one.
Yeah…but Baylor is also 6-3 against OSU since 2011 and they’ve won a couple of conference titles and played for a conference title in that same time frame. I can’t say the same about Gundy and OSU. I’m not disagreeing with the part you mentioned about their scheduling, but they’ve proven through the last few seasons (besides 2017 and 2020) that their strength of schedule had little to do with how good they were.
If I were to tell you your going to win a couple of conference titles (with a couple of victories against OU), and play for a conference title as well. However, you might have a couple of losing seasons. Do you take it? Or are you content with consistent seasons with almost no bedlam victories and 4th place?