But are those RBs as good as Jones? Recruits are unique individuals, so you can’t treat it like buying a Toyota. You’re analogies work if you assume that all RBs are equal and thus should be paid similarly. And OSU’s recruiting would indicate that’s not really the case. Our options towards highly recruited kids is unfortunately more limited, and thus capitalizing on those opportunities is important, because the failing to do so is how you end up with walk-ons and 2 stars in key roles. I appreciate that you don’t think I’m ignorant. I don’t think you are either. But I don’t think you are properly recognize the different in recruiting talent availability for a school like OSU vs. a school like OU with its $$$, tradition, and enhanced conference. Paying OSU dollars by OU would be an overpay, because they have options if they don’t get a kid like Jones. But OSU doesn’t have those fallback options at the equivalent talent level. Not getting Jones likely means that OSU’s freshman RB is a ‘lesser’ recruit.
We will take a 2nd RB, most likely. And its probably someone who was offered by Tulsa, NMSU, Utah State, and a couple of other MWC schools. That’s what OSU’s history under Gundy has been.
First off, no one knows what any recruit will become. Not Gundy. Not the recruiting service. Certainly neither of us. But we all can form our own opinions.
Completely disagree. OSU has limited monetary/NIL resources. They have less margin for error and need more bang for their NIL buck than some others do. If Bama, Oregon and OU backed off of him (which they did) because they felt he wasnt worthy of the NIL amount he thought he was… OSU cant afford to miss on a guy they pay above market value for. I better be much wiser with my purchases than Warren Buffet does.
I have such mixed feelings.
Pro - He’s shifty and has great vision.
Con - Gundy is terrible at developing highly rated recruits and they usually don’t live up to their potential.
Heres how I look at it. Im a Dallas Cowboys fan. They have an allotted amount of $$ to spend on a roster (salary cap). I dont want in any way, for them to spend a bunch on a RB. In todays game, a RB is less valuable now than ever. Same way with OU or any other football team working within a salary cap/budget.
I completely get this perspective. And I agree that we have no idea what the recruit will actually become. I generally don’t care about the star ranking, but rather the offer list. Yes, diamonds are found, but the guy being offered by half the Big 12 and SEC is more likely to be hit than the guy who’s offer list is WAC and MAC schools. As for Bama, OU and Oregon backing off him at his asking price? That’s supply and demand. For those schools, they likely are in on 5 RBs of a similar skill and talent level and so they can be more stringent in their spend and selectiveness. OSU on the other hand can’t. They don’t have a lot of shots at getting “SEC” level recruits, and they have to shoot their shot when the opportunity arise. This was one of those opportunities.
I can get behind most of that. I dont completely agree, but thats absolutely fine.
You stated everything pretty clearly. We had a little debate. Solid back and forth. These dont happen very often on a site/forum. Well done.
Time will tell on what he ends up being.
Not being snarky but which highly rated recruits have we had that didn’t live up to their billing of went on somewhere else and outperformed what they did here ?
Jelani Woods? Completely wasted here, and went on to catch 6 or 700 yards for Virginia and then made the league with the Colts.
Spencer Sanders was supposed to be the second coming of Jesus and ended up being just good
He was wasted some but I remember him also dropping a lot of sure catches is the reason we didn’t go back to him. He wasn’t a difference maker to me. Medium pick
Anyone else ?
Spencer won us a lot of games too. He would have been great if he had ever learned to not throw 50/50 balls, so many ints!! He got an attitude from his jr to sr year. After getting hurt things went south. I don’t see him as a waste at all. I’ll say this I’ll give him credit for giving 100 percent. He was tough
I’m not saying he’s a waste, but he definitely didn’t pan out to be what he was supposed to be.
Spencer went 30-11 as a starter. That’s not bad for a starter at anywhere but a BB …
So I’m going to thank him for the 30 wins and not tell him he wasn’t good enough
Agree. He was a very good player. I think his exit and lack of decorum at times on the sidelines have made him look worse in the rearview than he was
Yes his senior year has put a bad taste in people’s mouths for sure. I don’t know all the details but I’ve heard quite a bit but his exit wasn’t the best. Thing is he could have stayed for more than he got at Mississippi. He just went way off track