Originally published at: Four Takeaways from the Transfer Portal Window
On the mix of incoming transfers and retained young talent that should make for an exciting spring at OSU.
Maybe with so many position battles we can get a Spring scrimmage for the fans since their was nothing for the fans last season
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Almost a brand new team. New Coaches and Young and New players. Maybe we can scrap last years attitude and get a winning culture established. I am still baffled by what just happened this past season. Hope they can enjoy playing and make it fun, find some loyalty and some success in this ridiculous selfish state of college football.
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Personally, I wished the spring game would be a scrimmage against another team. It would be more entertaining IMO.
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You’ll get a spring meet and greet and you’ll like it pal.
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For all the doom and gloom talk, there really wasn’t a mass exodus from the program. Stribling was a notable blow, but most everyone (so far) has held tight and we even attracted people from other P4 conferences.
This QB battle does feel a bit like the Lunt/Chelf/Walsh battle where every answer is correct and less like Bowman/Rangel/Gundy where every answer might’ve been wrong.
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Well, with all these new transfers and coaches I’m positive we can squeak out a 4-8 record and rebound by a full game after this disastrous season.
Quick question: who is our best offensive and defensive players returning?
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“ Recruiting ratings and stars aren’t everything”
If they’re not everything, then how are teams with those stars making the CFP and winning their conference? ASU brought in 7 transfers that were four star recruits in high school and a good amount of high three stars (87-89 rating). Considering they just won the conference after a 3-9 season before. I’d say stars mean almost everything. Maybe you find a diamond in the rough every once in a while. Usually the people evaluating these recruits are mostly correct.
My thoughts on recruiting rankings are that for individual players, they’re not the end all to be all, but when you consider the overall ability of a team, they definitely matter. What I mean is that you may find individual players that are three star prospects when they should’ve been a four or you may find a two star that should’ve been a three. It’s pretty common to find kids that developed late or went to small high schools or high school programs that were not very good who don’t get the attention they deserve. Sometimes a kid will be a three sport athlete and doesn’t go to all the 7on 7 and summer camps because he’s playing baseball or something else. That holds true for some individuals, and of course, the opposite is also true. There are many overrated kids.
But, by and large, a team that is full of two and three star kids is going to perform like a team full of two and three star kids. That team is not going to beat most teams that are full of four and five star kids. An individual four or even five star kid may not be better than the three star athlete, but a team full of four and five stars is almost always going to be better than a team full of two and three stars (unless that team is Texas A&M–somehow their record is always the same, no matter what the talent level is).
Gundy, over the years, has been good at identifying those underrated kids and has made the mistake of thinking that applies to his team as a whole. It’s great to find one or two or even five underrated kids each year, but when your team is made up of two and three stars, it won’t take long to determine that your team is two/three star talent that’s going to lose to three/four and four/five star talent. Not everyone is a diamond in the rough and when your recruiting class is consistently 50th-60th in the country, you’re team’s performance is going to be 50th-60th in the country (or worse).
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After last season I am excited to see the new OC and DC, we can only improve (hopefully).
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Or…you find a Boise St where guys buy in and stay and get coached up! It still happens…even in the NIL Age!
Star ratings have as much to do with physical development as anything else. Some dudes are grown at 18, others need a year or two more. A super talented athlete that still needs time on the vine gets 3 stars.
Boise has been the best program in that conference for a while. They also get all the players USC, Oregon, and Washington don’t want. They also have a coaching staff that’s not incompetent. The QB that plays for Arkansas was at Boise last season. So the idea that all their players are staying to be coached up isn’t necessarily true.
Ashton Jeanty is only a junior. Last season he had 1,300 yards rushing against subpar completion. This season he has 2,500. If given the right NIL package I can promise you he would be sold to the highest bidder. That’s if he doesn’t come out and go to the NFL.
You mean like how we lost to Texas 49-21? Or how we got pounded by UCF 45-3 that was similar in talent if not worse? I keep trying to tell people this all the time. If you ever want to get over the hump if not getting blown out by a BB team or even beat them you need to find those extra two or three 4 star players that can make up the difference. Coaching will only take you so far. Every time Iowa plays someone with far better talent they get blown out and can’t even score. They might win 9 or 10 games, but there’s a reason they don’t have a conference title since 2004.
Dude, I LIVE in Boise. I know Jeanty’s story. He turned down 3, maybe 4 large offers to stay cuz he bought in. He wasn’t going to be “sold” to anyone!
Green was outplayed by Madsen and had a 4-star QB waiting on the bench. He left because he did NOT want to be coached.
But yes, they do get west coast unwanteds.
Bill knows everything. Especially about the things he knows nothing about.
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Yet you know nothing, and go after the ones who know something 
. Even legally blind men can see what you can’t.
Then why didn’t that happen with OSU this season? We returned 19 starters. So what happened? We’ve been telling you guys that Dunn wasn’t a true OC for a while and that hiring a D2 guy as a DC probably wasn’t the right move. The fans were correct, and Gundy wasn’t. It doesn’t do any good to get guys to “buy in” during NIL if we’re just going to be last place in the conference. I do like your optimism though. That I’ll give ya.
LOL He doesn’t know that he doesn’t know what he thinks he knows. Which follows that truly stupid people don’t know that they are stupid in fact they think they are smart 100% of the time.
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