Someone will need to correct me, I’m sure, but that “one-time donation” grew to be immensely huge.
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It did. But Texas is doing a 175 million renovation of their stadium this year. Invoking that donation as forever putting us on par with other programs is wrong.
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It’s Gundy who always claims he needs this or he needs that to recruit, but the more he gets the worse he recruits.
Hey, we agree, he could be a better recruiter. Still not worth firing him because that will cripple the athletic department.
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The same way a coaching change at Baylor crippled them? If that’s what you are talking about, bring it on.
Maybe we actually can afford to pay him 16 million and it won’t affect how much we can pay the next coach and how much that coach can pay his assistants. My understanding of OSU’s financials don’t lead me to believe we can.
You keep focusing on possible results, ignoring the financial perils. Please address them. How much are you willing to pay people to not coach? How much do you think OSU can afford to pay people to not coach in any given year?
I’m not willing to pay someone top 10 or 12 in the nation to average 4th in the conference. It’s never going to get cheaper to get rid of Gundy. Other schools have been able to get better coaches than they had. Baylor, LSU, OU SMU
We can agree it’s a bad contract. You’re still dodging.
As with Ford Holder would need to go find a donor who would like to see OSU take the next step. Probably even let them set in on the meetings to hire the next coach.
I’ll say again, any donor who can pony up 16 million should do so right now for the wrestling room. That will almost certainly see positive results not go gambling to appease you.
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I’m willing to bet it’s easier to find a donor frustrated with the football program than one frustrated with the wrestling program.
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16 million dollars for the wrestling team will make a positive difference. 16 million dollars for the football team, spent how you want, will probably make it worse. I wouldn’t think people with that kind of money are in the habit of throwing it away.
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This is all second hand but a friend of mine who is very good friends with Holder said: Holder told him it’s easy to get donations to make changes just call the alumni and donors that are unhappy and say we’ll make a change if you donate.
yep it’s that easy 
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He’s being paid top 20 money for top 14 results. That is exactly where we are over the last decade in the national conversation.
Evoking Baylor… Do you want us to go through a massive rape scandal to get a new coach? They were in ruins and hired the right guy. LSU had to hire the cheapest option because they had to pay Miles so much and their school is going broke. The fans wanted to fire Coach O last season. SMU… lol. Sunny Dykes is not a great football coach by any measure. He caught lightning in a bottle this season with transfers. OU got lucky with the way Stoops left the program for Riley… but that wasn’t OU’s choice! It just worked out that way!
So… yeah… you’re asking to take a sure thing and gamble for something that could end up being much worse. I’m of the opinion that no good coach would come to Stillwater after watching us run off our most successful coach of all time.
And the “they should give Boone his money back!” trope is disgusting. He gave his money to see the football program improve and it has. He died a happy man.
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Using Baylor as a comparison doesn’t mean a schoold has to go through everything they did, to be where they are.
C’mon Lee…that’s an insanely disingenuous argument.
“Football program doing poorly? Have a big rape scandal, clean house, then hire a new coach!”
^ That’s not what’s being said. ar1’s saying they were able to go from Briles to another pretty good coach without much dropoff, rape scandal not withstanding.
Baylor got very, very lucky with Rhule. And he took that job knowing the challenges he was facing… But he wasn’t necessarily following a guy that was just fired because people were sick of him.
If you fire Gundy, a lot of good coaches won’t accept an interview because they won’t want to follow a guy who succeed at everything but beating OU… And was still fired unceremoniously.
Miles was fired with a better record than Stoops but that didn’t keep people from interviewing.
There’s a reason they had to settle with Coach O and there’s a reason Herrman turned them down.
Oh. And not to mention Oklahoma State is much more likely to be Texas or Nebraska than it is to be LSU. We would probably get stuck overpaying a clown like Herrman and stuck with a 7 year contract on him.
IMO it wouldn’t go down that way. Holder and the board would not auto renew the contract. That gives Gundy the option to make improvements or ride out his contract. Gundy has shown on multiple occasions he will not want stay if he has to acquiesce to anyone at oSu IMO. The other job is how the buyout will work IMO. Gundy would be hired away and not fired. At that point the buy out can be negotiated by all involved. Firing is for coaches that can’t get another HC job for similar compensation. That is not the case with Gundy. My hope is Gundy finds a passion for recruiting or it will end badly at oSu for all involved.
The buy out money for Travs Ford was offset by the pay he got at SLU. Too often that gets lost.
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