I love OSU because I hate myself.
OU winning a title means we are losing Bedlam. I donāt want to lose Bedlam.
I would do that trade in a heartbeat. 1 natty isnt a big deal to them. The we have so many NCās argument doesnāt change with one additional title. However, if OSU starts getting top 20 classes, we become much more competitive and actually beat them more regularly. This seems to me like an easy decision.
I do not believe, in the current system, OSU will ever make the playoff. I think the committee would take a 2 loss SEC (or even Big 10 team) before an undefeated OSU even with an excellent non-conference schedule.
Even if itās just one more time?
Whatās the evidence for this? No undefeated P5 teams has been left out. An undefeated OSU will not be left out unless somehow all 5 P5 conferences have undefeated champions.
The committee has passed over a 2 loss Big 10 Champion in favor of a team with fewer losses before.
No it doesnāt. We can win Bedlam and they can still win a title, and we can set ourselves up to win a title of our own.
Crabs in a bucket is all this is.
My college football conspiracy meter reads as high as anyoneās does, but even I donāt believe this. But unless there is some very unusual circumstance, I do think we need to go undefeated to get in.
Not if we play a good non-conference slateā¦
I would hope soā¦ but until a non-blue blood wins a CFP tough-call decision, I will stick with my conspiracy position. Bring this reply back up to me when Utah or Baylor gets in this Sunday.
A rational point, I donāt have any evidence. And - to be sure - this isnāt an āeveryone hates OSU and we always get screwedā take.
My anecdotal observation is that the committee (and punditry) are always glass half empty with non-blue blood schools. There is always a reason why a non-blue blood gets excluded from the conversation. āWeakā conference, no conference championship, no defenseā¦ the playoff makes too much money to risk a non-brand name like Utah, or TCU, or UCF, or OSU to get in.
I believe the committee, like bowl committees, will move the goalposts (ha! great pun tom!) to keep a non-blue blood out if/when push comes to shove.
Itās possible, but thereās only one way to find out. We have to go undefeated. Not āone bad gameā. Not āoh, it was Bedlam so it makes senseā. Un-de-feat-ed. Beating OU twice if we have to. If we still wouldnāt get in, then there would be legit cause for fury.
Truth. And our current typical non-conference strategy of one solid P5 (or Boise State) and two G5 games will be sufficient for that. Just donāt want a FCS team on the schedule to open the doors for omission.
Iāve been expecting this one for a really long timeā¦
OSU beats OU in the regular season and is undefeatedā¦ itās OUās only lossā¦ OU beats OSU in the Big 12 title gameā¦ jumps OSU for a spot in the CFP.
Nightmares.
Youāre a monster and I hate you for saying this.
An undefeated P5 school is getting into the playoff 100% of the time to suggest otherwise is nonsense.
Yep. And thatās why crazy hard non-con scheduling is not helpful. Unless everyone does it.
All depends on what you want as a fan out of the football season, CFP potential maximization or more potential for fun matchups. Iām firmly in the latter camp.
Listening to national podcasts and websites discuss some of the open jobs, Iām glad weāre past scheduling wins hoping for bowl eligibility. Even with one less non-con game, we still have more flexibility than Arkansas and Ole Miss who must schedule 4 guaranteed wins and then hope for 2 SEC wins.
We both have reasonable but different positions on non-con scheduling. Regardless, there is no reason the SEC should not schedule one more cross-division game per year and then have only 3 non-con games per year. Other than SEC protectionism.
Thatās how it should happen, according to basically everyone on here, right? Win your conference championship, youāre in?