Is this called for?
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Post-phone call. Weâd already been booted. Bring me something else.
What personal opinions had been judged? Again this happened prior to the OAN stuff. Stop using something that didnât enter into it as justification.
Just think of the headache the article caused him with his football team, recruiting, and trying to prepare for a season. Could you blame him for being a little upset with PFB? There was another issue with OSU football added when it wasnât necessary for it to be added in the first place. I probably wouldnât want to speak or talk with that media outlet ever again so I know I donât have an additional issue that may break apart my team chemistry.
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This happened after he called me and booted us.
You are correct. You know itâs not like Kyle could have said âGundy went fishing with his boysâ or anything like that. Just had to be âGundy went fishing donning an OAN shirtâ. Yep⌠definitely no zero value judgment call there.
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Even if he did say that you guys would just finding something else negative about him that you deem article worthy. You donât have to put any kind of spin on us. We all know where PFB stands on Gundy and politics now.
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For sure.
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If the best defense of Gundy is that heâs a precog, it seems like he could put that ability to better use than he is.
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I said I was fine if you guys being critical on his coaching. What I do find CRITICALLY unprofessional is when you HAVE to say âMike Gundy went fishing donning an OAN shirtâ.
There was no good reason or point in doing so, and in fact all it did was nearly derail the chemistry between the players and coaches. I would assume not all the players and coaches have the same political beliefs. Now if there is one thing these days that can break that chemistry itâs usually politics.
Not once have I seen anyone commenting on this blog ever come after you ( or Boone) for the political standing you support. I donât go around posting photos of people with BLM shirts or anything like that and then posting it for the entire country to see and get everyone fired up that doesnât support a Marxist movement. I can get behind BLM and support fighting again police brutality that does exist, but I wonât support a Marxist policy (Go read the BLM page).
Then just like in typical fashion we have college students taking the OAN debacle completely out of context and plastering Gundy as a racist that doesnât care about his black players. How could you not know that such a thing would have caused a stir??? Since when does Gundyâs political beliefs become relevant to his coaching and recruiting. I wonder would you have posted a picture of Gundy wearing a Bernie 2020 shirt?
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Exactly!!! There was absolutely no reason to make such a comment on that picture. What would have been wrong with âGundy spent the day fishingâ.
Nope!!! Make sure to put OAN on the comment and blast it out to everyone!!!
Thatâs fine. Maybe if PFB apologizes sincerely enough heâll change his mind. Doubt it though.
I donât know how many times Iâm going to have to type this, but all of that stuff happened after he called me. So whatever it is that upset or frustrated him had nothing to do with our China virus or OAN coverage. We have not spoken since March 3.
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I know Kyle. Iâve seen that. Happened afterwards. Well he definitely may not speak to you guys again for the rest of his coaching tenure at OSU.
Iâll continue to wait for all those reasons he should have been mad before March 3, 2020. Iâve seen zero thus far.
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Yes there is. Gundy brought up OAN unsolicited in his press conference. Therefore it is newsworthy to report him wearing an OAN shirt in public. Itâs journalism. Gundy brought that on himself. Stop trying to blame PFB.
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Iâm not one to post - probably my first.
KP keeps saying âtimelineâ as if everything that transpired after that phone call in March [to remove the PFB football credential] doesnât matter. But if there was a lack of trust towards PFB for whatever reason before the phone call (whether because of the âblogâ name, the OSU uniform scoop way back when, the Mike Holder interview discussing Gundy performance, or whatever the reason or non-reason), the hard line actions and hot-button opinion articles PFB did after the phone call (from COVID, to OAN shirt, to Gundyâs contract concessions, to the websiteâs personal response to t-shirt conflict, to the recent publicizing of complaints about the credential being removed) only deepened that divide of trust, at least in my humble opinion. Thus, even if the initial Gundy/OSU decision to remove the credential in March 2020 may have been flawed or without sufficient predication, the PFB actions taken after credential removal give the appearance of retaliation (even if that may not have been PFBâs intent). Thus, the trust divide only worsened, which made the likelihood of reconciliation go down.
Again, I cannot speak for OSU or for Gundy. But I can speak for myself that, as a long time PFB reader and one of the first paid subscribers, my own trust of the website has waned. I enjoyed the data-drive articles, the Ragusa talk on plays, recruitment updates, etc. that are ânewsâ or can be supported with âfactsâ, but I donât enjoy reading about or seeing new conflicts ignited at my alma mater or all of the political bantering. We get enough conflict in this day and age. When over-editorializing starts happening, as a reader, my trust of the journalistic sourcing goes down. If the PFB is marketing itself as an OSU news website now (instead of a âblogâ), in my opinion, that means minimally sectioning off fact-based journalism from blog-based opinion. Right now those two canât be differentiated based on article organization and titles, etc.
For the sake of PFB and for the university, I hope reconciliation happens. But just like Gundy had to show humility after the t-shirt incident, I think a little more public humility from PFB would go a long way. The follow-up article on Trammelâs that PFB wrote did appear like âwhiningâ or at least trying hard to get folks to call up OSU and complain. IMHO, PFB would have been better off to have just mentioned in a brief article on the website that, âPFB appreciates Berry Trammel and the Oklahoman vouching for PFB to get an OSU football credential and we look forward to reconciliation with OSU football in the future in a way that will allow PFB to cover OSU football in the fullest and fairest extent possibleâ.
Given we all want OSU to thrive, I wish only the best for all parties involved.
Just my two cents.
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Good stuff here. Well said.
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Also, for posterity: I have been laboring to reconcile for five months behind the scenes. I felt like we owed it to readers to explain why we werenât going to be able to cover football this season like we normally do. I just wanted the story to be out there so everyone can move on. Nothing will change, and I donât expect it to, but we needed to explain it before jumping into the season.
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The thing is, he doesnât owe you a reason. Iâve been fired many times from the churches Iâve worked at and the reason Iâve been given for every single one was just a difference in direction. Not really a reason, but what they gave. I didnât gripe about it or demand something else. Move on and do your job. If you want credentials then do what is necessary to earn it. This article doesnât do that. If you donât know what needs to be done then go back to him and have a conversation about it. Youâre an intelligent person, but youâre not making intelligent moves to get the credentials if thatâs what you really want.
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