I’m sure Weiberg put in some names to said consulting firm. Even when we were sucking I had some and not even getting paid, LOL.
Everyone has an opinion and you’re entitled to yours, but to call me idiot and a jerk shows you the type of person you are, Einsteen.
If the Gumby fanboys listen to this…maybe they’ll become less of a fanboy. 
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I stated an opinion and you were immediately condescending and called names. That’s what being a jerk is. And it’s not my fault your argument has zero logic - I just gave you data. You can attack all you want, but if you’re going to be rude at least be right.
I was being facetious calling you a Landsquatter, but that’s how they are, want immediate gratification and that must how you are. You brought up former oSu head coaches which I didn’t bring up, I said don’t be so quick to judge Lutz! You came out of left field w/ that comparsion and that didn’t prove squat about what I said. If I brought up, e.g. Mike Boynton and said he should’ve gotten fired years before he did, then that would’ve made sense to bring that goofy graphic up, but I didn’t. I think he got a raw deal, knowing what we know of how the NCAA screwed us and him. I think you’re being way too critical if you really know the state of the program when Lutz took over, but go on w/ your opinions. Everyone is entitled to one.
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Data may be factual but it can be misleading. Case in point, I think it’d be fair to state that Lutz was given less than a fair shake in his first year considering how late he was hired. That first year team was a last minute, stitched together rag tag squad whose only real goal was to try and be competitive. And I think that’s a valid reason (not all reasons are excuses) to call last year his first true year. And I think it’s fair to say the team underperformed last year. So, because of that and because his team this year seems MUCH better, you’d be correct if this year turns out to be a bust.
Long story short, I think you’re a year early in calling for his head.
His hands were forced in each hire. He didnt hire Taylor or Morris on his own volition. His hand was forced by donors holding money over his head. Chad wanted Coleman Scott to be the next coach of wrestling but Kayse Shrum demanded Chad post the job to see what interest we got. When David Taylor showed interest, Shrum told Chad he wasn’t getting Scott. Then a donor called to offer 35 million and told Chad and Shrum that he would give the wrestling program the 35 million only if they hired David Taylor against the desire of Chad (he was dead set about Scott and didn’t want to back out on him). As for Morris, I understand that the same situation played out that donors gave money for the “right” hire and that someone else within the university forced Chad to hire Morris. Chad gets the glory with his name on the hires but his fingerprints weren’t the ones making the moves. Others were so it all on his behalf. I have heard many large donors talk about how the climate around Chad is not a good one. That not many think very highly of him. Shrum routinely got frustrated with him because he always asked for her thoughts and opinions to guide his decisions on athletics instead of taking the reins himself.
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Morris wouldn’t go anywhere if Chad was fired. As i understand it, Chad isn’t the one who made the decision to hire Morris.
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I have had many conversations with a handful of in the loop, large donors that have very little positive to say about Chad. A few coaches think he is weak and refuse to be around Chad. If it weren’t for the donor who gave 35 million to wrestlingbas well as Shrum forcing Chad’s hand, we would have Coleman Scott running the wrestling program and be in the same position as with Smith. The donor forced Chad’s hand. And from my sources, Chad also didn’t hire Morris. He was told who he was going to hire from someone else in the university. My understanding is he is afraid of making his own decisions always asks others what to do before he makes the final decision.
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Yeah, what coach is leaving a school because an AD gets fired?
Listen to the pistols firing podcast from last Thursday. Carson and Colby talk extensively about this, including inside sources. Either they don’t know what they’re talking about or you don’t. Based on your posting history, and based on how right those guys have been, I’m leaning with you.
It would seem to be common sense that if Weiberg chose Morris, had worked with him extensively in past places, and was his closest supporter after a rough loss against Tulsa and now they both get to enjoy the success of the team of late, they might have a bond that could affect how Morris would feel about the school if they let Weiberg go.
Seems pretty logical.
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Is there any evidence to this whatsoever? If not, then it’s all just pure speculation. I actually think the donors (from my sources which I do have) were sick of Gundy’s antics and that was the scenario which dictated profoundly on whether more money would be applied to NIL or not. You can’t continually pi55 off your administration, fans, and lose a ton of games thinking your ego is more important than the actual program.
I can certainly tell you that some of them were NOT HAPPY when we returned 19 starters and finished dead last in the conference. The icing on the cake was getting hammered 69-3 to Oregon and losing to Tulsa the last season.
You’re talking about guys who are in the business of wanting to win the conference and make the CFP. Not just get to any bowl game, and certainly have no interest in going back to the latter Pat Jones years.
I’m not going to say for certain that what you’re saying is untrue. However, if we’re going to be realistic here the most likely scenario is that the administration pitched to the donors that hiring a coach that’s proven he can develop young talent, while also not being completely against the transfer portal would be the best option going forward. It makes sense from a financial and practical perspective for a school like OSU.
Morris just happened to be the coach that held that kind of consistency. Notice how he brought players from North Texas that he knew would either compete confidently or at least contribute at the P4 level. He then went and picked up some solid players from other P4 programs. He’s the kind of coach that will find high school and transfer portal gems that fit his system.
The days of developing a player for two years and hoping he will be good are nearly gone. Perhaps the Protect College Sports Act that just passed helps bring that back to fruition. For now, what I’ve stated above is what we have to work with going forward.
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