How many straight years have we talked about OLine issues?
I only mention bowls because you acted like he doesnt win them.
Some guys are giving boynton extra time because of covid and the ban.
Since dickey has been here we have kicked 2 guys off had 3 retire and 5 go to the portal. We had 4 guys start at other school and 2 power 5 school.
With lineman want everywhere guys that we developed who are sitting by a group of guys that still have 2 years left, know they can play other spots.
Hunter still has a year. With the new guy we have 7 guys with 2 years left. And no we can recruit guys that can start as freshman. Not alot of those guys are out there.
Long list of excuses when the answer is the coaches havenāt done a good job.
Its reality not excuses. Look you want dickey gone thats fine. But, first off dnt lie. He has recurited and developed he has got 11 guys out there that have start college games. No how can you get around that.
On webber he came from a military juco. Have no idea why he is back home. If it was dickey or gundy he would go to the portal.
Casey had issues that we found out afterwards. He isnt in portal either.
Ou has a ton of 4 and 5 star guys in portal. Look at saban. You act like every recurit gundy gets should be great, just because? Its great in stillwater.
Iāve never acted like Gundy doesnāt win bowls. I said he doesnāt win championships, and my evidence is 1 in 17 years at OSU, which happened 11 years ago.
Iāve never mentioned Boynton, but since you did, Iād note that even people who love him are starting to question if heās the right guy. Like you said, if a builder has his lumber caught on fire by an act of God (much closer analogy for the NCAA ban than the loss of a couple linemen to injury), you donāt fire him the first time. Thatās why Boynton isnāt on the hotseat yet, although, Iāll be very surprised if at the end of this season, you donāt see an assistant coach shuffle to bring in someone thatās more offensive minded. Otherwise, Boyntonās seat could start getting toasty too.
Weird that other teams can keep talent at Oline but we cant. Eventually that falls on the coaches. And who is the model that Dickey can stand up and say, stick with me and Iāll develop you to be this guy. His only lineman to get an NFL sniff was Josh Sills, who was already an all-big 12 player when he joined OSU as a graduate transfer. He hasnāt shown any capability of developing an OLineman on his own. So I can see why the undergraduates transfer. They can clearly see that Dickey isnāt making them better.
If anyone wants to hear two different sides of what is going on in stillwater and know what happened to Spencer. Barry Tramel and Robert Allen was on 365 sports today. I listen to 365 frequently, they get pretty good guest, and cover everything Big12. They have a website, station in Waco, and on YouTube. They both kinda pretty much put everything out there today and answered a lot of questions. Iām not the biggest Allen fan but thereās some bits of truth and coded things in what he says. I definitely like Barry a lot and met him before.
Thereās a bunch of different sites and links when you google 365 sports. Can you give me a link to their Youtube or website. Iād be interested to hear a replay.
I listen to 365 Sports, you can find them on YouTube or Listen on their website if you donāt live in the Waco area. They get better guest than the sports animal and wwls. They had Allen and Tramel on today. I listen to wwls sometimes too and various podcast on YouTube.
Dickey has 11 guys out there that have started games.
Guys like millis and that whole class. Wouldnt get to play. You dnt get that millis has 2 years left. He was behind the other guys. You not getting that covid year has hurt us i that way. Kids want to play.
Guys retire or kicked off is dickeys fault.
I dont look at the year boynton got banned as a good year. We didnt loses any players and went even. So it didnt matter if they didnt have a ban.
We can give him a year or two more. But nothing has changed. Players dnt get better and we cant close out game except with cade.
Only improvement is we are passing a lil more.
They been talking about us a lot since the transfer portal and Gundy going off on Scott Marshall. They are pretty fair on coverage.
Thank you sir. Much appreciated.
Cool I watch 365 on YT from time to time. Iāll go see if I can find that broadcast. Thanks for letting us know.
Watched both interviews, Trammel and RA. Very interesting insights from both of them. Thanks again for posting the link.
I listen to tramel. I could actually listen to it all.
This shiwed nil is big.
One thing i dnt see is sanders being the best of the rest, will get a bidding war. Sanders has got to pick one why are they want him. Its not guaranteed he will start at those school.
I do like how the haters pick some rumors. Like if with Johnson and his family wanting to talk about game plan with gundy. No coach would do that.
On another forum there is link to another interview that RA did on SiriusXM big 12 radio talking about the Spencer Sanders situation and RAās comments are a little different from those he made on 365 sports. Here is a link to a twitter that has the sound bite if anyone is interested, scroll down to find it. https://twitter.com/GabeIkard
The only thing that seems to advance is Gundyās pay, and other programs poaching our players while Gundy admits he doesnāt put up a fight to hold onto any of them.
No, but when you admit to the public you donāt talk to your players that enter the portal it tells me you think youāre more important than OSU football itself. It tells me you really donāt give a dam about the fans. It REALLY tells me you donāt give a dam about what your AD and boosters think either. If thatās going to be the case then stop robbing the OSU treasury and actually let someone coach the team that wants to earn that kind of pay.
Yeah I watch 365 too. They have some very good content and dig into the weeds pretty good on issues with every Big 12 team.
1 thing is you get to rapped up in coach talk and rumors.
I want to know have you seen alot of coaches. You seem to only know gundy as a coach.
If i was gundy and knew you were a fan i would laugh and go on about my business.