Report: Oklahoma State Hires Vance Vice to Coach Offensive Line

Originally published at: https://pistolsfiringblog.com/report-oklahoma-state-hires-vance-vice-to-coach-offensive-line/

Vice is a former teammate of Mike Gundy and Doug Meacham at OSU.

Ok this one is good because at least we got someone from a successful offensive program and one we wished came with the coordinator.

I have no issues with this hire. Maybe we can actually run the ball for over 4.5 yards per rush :man_shrugging:.

Hey champ,

I only regret that we’ll never know if he’s any good since you couldn’t find anything to crap on and therefore the world must be coming to an end.

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@DickeySucksBalls I guess you’re going to have to change your name.

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With two new coordinators coming in, you have to allow them to fill out their staff with who they want. So, it’s looking like everyone – except for Rob Glass and maybe Snyder – are out the door.

Inference: everyone EXCEPT Gundy was the problem.

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Perhaps not. Since the buck stops with the head guy I would couch it as Gundy hired the problems so he is complicit. However the powers that be think he can do better next time so here we are.

Jim Knowles didn’t hire his assistants, he blended with who we had in staff.

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Good point.

I’ll wait to see which new coach sucks and then change it.

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We’ve gone from one of the oldest teams in college football, to one of the oldest coaching staffs, HC, DC, & OC. We’ll see how this works out; my guess, NOT GOOD!

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So what is this bias against Older people? I’m starting to feel like the AARP defender here with all the ā€œold peopleā€ rants concerning the coaching hires. Guess what, everybody if they are lucky, gets to be old at some point and getting old doesn’t automatically make you stupid or untalented. So why not do a little brain work and come up with a real reason why these coaches aren’t right for the job.

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Historically, ā€œoldsā€ don’t keep up with the latest trends, as demonstrated by Gundy’s absolute dismissal of football analytics. In addition, offensive systems that were new, fresh and successful 10 years ago, don’t necessarily work well against defenses that have since adapted. And finally, 60 year olds don’t always find it easy to establish relationships with 18-22 year olds, and even with NIL, those relationships will matter, particularly in maintaining recruits from transferring to ā€˜lateral’ opportunities elsewhere. Not every player who transfers from OSU is going to a blue blood. We’ll likely lose those battles to money. But good relationships can keep guys from transferring to the TCU and K-State level of programs.

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Hey champ,

Old people can’t have relationships with young people? What a doom spiraling cult of youth we live in. There used to be real mentorship happening and there was some actual value to a student athlete relationship. Now people are just brands and brand managers trying to use each other to make a profit. It makes it hard to care.

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What you wrote here is poppycock.

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I don’t mind a complete overhaul with the exception of our strength coach…I absolutely thought he was the best in the country!

Yeah, plus if you have a young roster, I think you want veteran coaches.

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Yea someone who really knows KIDS and how to get them headed in the right direction

So who is safe ? Gotta think Wozniak? Coach Glass ? Anybody on defense, are we getting rid of Joe Bob ?

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It looks like everyone is gone except for Glass and Snyder. Don’t hold me to that though as I’m not following things all that close

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