Yeah, I don’t know that he is, but someone posited that idea.
Mateer is a great example of how to go from the number one player in the portal and chasing the money to a blueblood and possibly killing any chance of being drafted.
The funniest part is there were people suggesting Arbuckle as OSU’s next coach.
The teams on your schedule are tougher. That’s common sense. That’s the ONLY factor that is against you. Your resources across the board are better. Your path to the NFL is “easier”. Your bank account is fatter. Your roster is better. Again, your argument is a bad one.
Mateer…..OU is not in the same ballpark right now as Ohio St when it comes to WR’s. If you would like me to list all the transfer QB’s that left a middle-road program and found their way to success at a blueblood I will. The list is faaaar longer than you’d like
Huge assumption he can beat out Sayin who’s only a sophomore and was 4th in Heisman voting. Would you? Did you even know that?
Howard barely got drafted, do you remember what round? ![]()
I do. He was a 6th rd pick. So was Kyle Mccord before him. As a matter of fact, of the last 10 legitimate Ohio St starting QB’s…only 2 went undrafted (JT Barrett wouldve, but tore his knee up and changed positions. Todd Boeckman). Can you give me the drafted QB’s for Oklahoma St? Again, im not trying to take a dump on OSU. But to compare Oklahoma St to Ohio St is so ridiculously dumb.
This was hypothetical and posed by someone else. I don’t think Ohio State is in on Mestemaker. Maybe they’re looking for an established, high profile transfer for their bench, but I doubt it. The point was, if some top-tier school was in on Mestemaker and offering him a lot of money, it would be a smart decision to take one of those jobs.
If the starting QB doesn’t get hurt then Will Howard doesn’t see the field.
I believe the overall point is that he WAS hurt and Howard WAS successful.
What are you talking about? McCord transferred out before Howard ever come to town. Who is the injury you’re referring to?? Howard was brought in to be the starter. I’m quickly realizing why I quit engaging with you.
Hey champ,
Ok, what?
Does Howard get drafted if he stays at KSU? Maybe, but being at Ohio State definitely put all eyes on him.
In all fairness, tOSU is getting 4-5 while we’re getting 3*…not really a fair comparison when comparing players going pro from the two programs. All that being said, the system and lack of defensive athletes helped his offensive numbers. I think the Big 12 would be the best league for him to take that next step. Trusting your coach and his system is definitely worth a temporary pay cut (if he’s even have to take one).
Will Howard was a 3 star. I think the 4-5 star guys in the supporting cast means more to making the pros which is why any QB would want to go there.
Most of this depends on where Mestemaker would end up as well. Of course if he goes to Ohio State he would be successful (maybe), but I’m also taking into account the athletes he’ll be facing are much more faster and better than what he sees in the American.
Are defensive athletes really that much better in the Big 12 than in the American? Maybe, but I doubt it’s a massive difference. Also depends on what style of ball he wants to play as well. He’s successful under the offense Morris has instituted. Could he be fine under Ohio State’s? Maybe, but there’s no guarantee he would be. Just saying there are different variables involved to take into account.
Why? Because I pointed out Mateer had more success at Washington State than he did at OU this season? Is it because I made the point that facing lesser competition can make you look better? (See Mateer). Don’t get me wrong. I think Mateer is a gamer. The point is you’ve made only one comparison (Will Howard) while your boy in your own backyard is finding individual success isn’t always guaranteed by a BB school.
Hey champ,
The Big 10 is top heavy. Being at Ohio State puts you as the top dog every year. Michigan, Oregon, USC, and Penn State are a step below. Indiana is good now, let’s see if they sustain it. Pretty much everyone else is mediocre or bad.
That’s exactly the point I’m making. The Big 12 is not a top heavy conference. We literally have one team in the CFP while the Big 10 has three. If Eric Morris can get you a decent OL and a couple of WR’s in a conference that had to add former G5 teams and the teams none of the other power conferences wanted. Then perhaps that’s more of an ideal situation in your future draft stock and success compared to facing tougher defensive competition. That’s all I’m saying..
Hey champ,
Well, you’re wrong. There is more parity in the Big XII with two schools at least that are outspending you. Every week you are facing a team near your level and if you play Tech and BYU, you’re going to be at a money disadvantage. Ohio State is never going to be at a financial disadvantage. They can only be upset because they will almost always have the better squad.
The Big XII isn’t exactly stuffing the league with QBs lately, so whatever logic you’re using is empirically wrong. Even Shedeur Sanders who had huge hype got drafted late. Duggan, Thompson, Purdy… all 7th rounders. Not a high volume, not getting drafted high. Meanwhile, Ohio State themselves have Howard, McCord, Stroud, Fields all getting drafted in the last five years.
What disadvantage does money have to do with Mestemaker’s on-field performance against lesser athletes? I agree Ohio State has all those accolades. All I’ve said is guaranteed success (statistically speaking) doesn’t always translate because you’re at a BB school. Take a look at the school 81 miles south of Stillwater. As I’ve said before, all I have to do is wait to be right while you’ll still be wrong
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Hey champ,
Because he’ll also have lesser athletes around him? Are you stupid?
You can wait all you want. QBs at the best schools are getting drafted more often and higher than Big XII QBs. That won’t change even if Mestemaker comes here and gets drafted #1. He can play here and get drafted here, but his best chance is getting paid more and playing with superior athletes on bigger stages.