Reports: North Texas Quarterback Drew Mestemaker Expected to Enter Transfer Portal

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Now you’re moving the goal posts as Ketchup likes to say. The point was never about who gets drafted more. The entire point was what best fits Mestemaker’s situation for further success. I already told you there could be different variables included that may not fit what Mestemaker needs or wants if he were to choose a BB school.

A lot of that would depend on what Morris can do to show him he could be successful at OSU. Mestemaker is only a Freshman as well. So even if things didn’t work out for him at OSU he still has plenty of eligibility left to try himself out at a BB school.

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For the 3rd time

WHAT INJURY ARE YOU REFERRING TO WHEN YOU SAID HOWARD WOULD NOT HAVE SEEN THE FIELD??

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I’m gonna need an explanation on what the hell this is supposed to prove?

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You were right. He was the starter for 2024. See, I can actually admit when I was wrong about something. I don’t double down like many do on here. Still doesn’t detract from the overall and main point of what I was making.

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Agree.

What is the main point you are trying to make?

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I’ve been saying it this entire time. Transferring to a BB may not be the ideal situation for a guy like Mestemaker. There’s no guarantee he’s going to get offensive athletes to enhance where he’s already at (See Mateer as the example). Not saying he wouldn’t, just saying that possibly Morris could place him in a better situation with offensive athletes since he’s an offensive coach and more in tune with Mestemaker’s attributes.

Also, Mestemaker is only a freshman. Even if he did go to OSU and it didn’t work out he would still have 2 years of eligibility remaining if needed. There’s no familiarity there like he would have being with Morris (unless there’s a Morris connection to Ohio State I don’t know about). It’s really what best fits the ideal situation for Mestemaker. I agree Ohio State could give him more money for NIL. Then again it’s up to Mestemaker who he thinks could get him on track to the NFL. Given Morris’ history with developing quarterbacks he may take the safe option.

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You keep harping on Mateer, as if continually acting as though he’s hurt his draft stock or his future by coming to OU. You act like Mateer was terrible and has fallen off the map. What advantage, CLEAR ADVANTAGE, would Mateer have had by staying at WSU? Washington St went 7-6 this year and nobody knows who they are. Mateer went to the playoff & made $2 mil. I’m not discounting the possibility that a guy like Mestemsker could choose a place like Oklahoma St & he just fine. But to act like there are not CLEAR advantages at the blue blood programs is just being blind for arguments sake. There are countless QB’s who portaled/transferred to a blueblood & benefitted…..to somehow try & spin John Mateer as a reason to not go to a blueblood makes zero sense.

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I’m not sure what his opinion is, but I think Mateer is a good example why you shouldn’t go to a BB that emphasizes defense over offense.

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Hey champ,

How is that relevant to anything? If anything this disproves your point. There have been more Ohio State QBs make the NFL, but aren’t good enough to win in the pros. This means if you are a mediocre quarterback, you want to play for Ohio State to inflate your draft stock to get your foot in the door that your talent doesn’t deserve.

There are two types of college QBs we’re talking about here. There are guys who have obvious pro talent who are going to make the pros no matter where they play like Josh Allen out of Wyoming or Joe Flacco out of Delaware. Then there are 30-40 guys who are good college QBs but mediocre NFL prospects and they’re vying for 10 to 12 draft spots or at least UDFA signing to make a pay day and get a shot to work their way to a starter or at least a nice backup career. If you’re one of that second group, you want to get drafted so you want to play for the highest profile school you can because
1.) You want exposure. You want people talking about you every week.
2.) You want an NFL-caliber O-line and NFL-caliber weapons.

It didn’t hurt Dillon Gabriel. That guy has no discernible, exceptional NFL talents or skills and he got drafted. Yes, he went to a top-flight offense after OU, but a top-flight offense wanted him, so it didn’t exactl hurt his image. He got to get drafted over and start over Shedeur Sanders, the Big XII’s best QB, and who has more talent. Some of that is attitude, yes, but some of it has to be BB pedigree.

I’ll give you that you shouldn’t go to the highest-profile school you can get into if it’s a defensive team. If your best portal offer is Iowa, you should see what your second-best offer is. A true BB is different, though. Alabama put QBs in the league from defensive teams. Greg McIlroy got drafted low, yes, but he had no business being in the NFL at all, yet he got a shot because of the aura of Alabama and Saban.

While I generally agree with you, I think it’s clear Mateer’s sheen has come off this year. Even local homer radio is talking about how he’s lost confidence in himself. Going into the season, he was ranked the 5th best college QB from WSU. He clearly was able to establish national respect from WSU. If he didn’t, OU wouldn’t have come after him and paid him $2 mil. So, yes, he got a nice pay day, but I do think his stock has dropped a bit struggling at times this year at OU. He’ll still get drafted, but he’s probably still got that sheen if he had stayed at WSU who would, in all likelihood, not be a 7-6 team if he were still there. Being on the bigger stage has perhaps magnified his flaws.

Do players really care about making the playoffs in 2025? It’s all money. They’re competitors still… sort of, so they probably care a little, but if a typical player had to pick between making the college playoffs or getting drafted a round higher (or getting drafted at all for the non-stars), I think it’d be the latter.

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If you pay close attention to what I just posted earlier. You would see where I’ve given you evidence that it neither hurt nor advanced his draft stock. My point still stands with a guy like Mateer. There’s no guarantee there will be athletes at a BB school to make you better. Carson Beck left Georgia for Miami, and his stats largely remain the same. Sometimes the coach actually matters if you pay close enough attention, and not just the athletes around the QB.

Again, pay attention to what I said (especially above). I’ve just given you two examples of where there’s not a clear advantage either way. Not saying there hasn’t been for people (Like Will Howard). Just saying it doesn’t happen at an alarming rate like you guys seems to think. Go look at the information for yourself.

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So if you were advising Mestemaker & the two schools that were after him were Oklahoma St & Ohio St. Both with what their upcoming rosters are likely to be. Both with offering NIL packages similar to what they typically do.

What program would you advise him to attend & why?

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I’d tell him to simply not just look at the money nor players. I’d advise him to look at the offensive system and coaches as well. I’d tell him to look where he came from (non-starter in HS) and to be honest about his athletic fit and abilities. Just because you thrive under one system against lesser talent doesn’t mean you’re going to under another system in a conference against better defensive athletes.

I’d also tell him to look if other programs already have an established starter or any other QB they have in mind for what they want to do. Use Ohio State as the example here. Julian Sayin is just a Sophomore. I’m sure Ohio State is content with him, and wouldn’t waste resources on a guy like Mestemaker.

Again, there are more variables to consider than just up and going to a BB school without any serious thought input into it. You have to consider scheme, coaching, fit, personal limitations, opposition, and realism to the situation.

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Hey champ,

I sort of figured you’d stop peeing in everyone’s orange Kool-Aid and put on orange-colored glasses as soon as Gundy left, but this is beyond even what I thought.

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I’ve always had them on. I’m just realistic about what I see. Like not becoming the next Kansas of old with Gundy still in charge. Some of you actually thought he could fix it. Oh well, we’ll see what you’ll be wrong about next :+1:.

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If he were to go after this season, I don’t think he would have a chance in hades. He should have went to a place where the head coach was an offensive guy from a mike leach air raid.

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Hey champ,

Well, you’re retarded. He’s got 3rd-4th round grades. He was talked about as a potential 1st rounder before, so he has hurt his value, but he hasn’t dropped out of the draft. Scouts are going to look at the body of work. They know all of the extenuating circumstances. There are lots of QBs who have a down year at the end of their career who still get drafted.

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Hey champ,

I’ll admit I was wrong: I thought you were a stupid person, but now I think you might be a slightly more intelligent chimp, so that was my bad.

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That’s the entire point I was making. Besides wearing an OU uniform and getting more money. His draft stock largely remained the same according to scouts.

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We all make mistakes, and none of us are perfect :+1:. Some just more than others.

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Hey champ,

It hasn’t though. His draft stock is down. It only takes one team to think otherwise, but general consensus is that he’s not a 1st rounder whereas some argued he was previously.