To clarify I was referring to a position coach
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Braye played some as a true freshman you idiot. Gundy saved his redshirt. See you donât know anything about the team or whoâs playing till they leave then you say they could be an AAâŚâŚ
Stop the dumbassery joy , no one want to listen to it much less read it I guess Oliver didnât see the field as a freshman ? Best I remember he led the team in sacks as a true freshman !!
Go find a hobby, axe throwing would be good for you
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I know. I never denied he didnât play. Also, I only said if a freshman is far better. Try to keep up here.
The conversation and topic was based on OL freshman. Try to stay on topic and keep up here.
This is exactly what I keep talking about. If youâre too stupid to stay on the topic you donât need to be discussing football on these forums.
Youâre wrong on both counts. Just too stupid to admit you were wrong about freshmen not playing
When you got caught speeding your want to say I didnât stay on topic , which is what you do constantly. You had no idea Bray played as a freshman, remember no freshman play for Gundy ? âŚâŚ just stupid remarks to chat a cheap shot at Gundy Go ahead admit you were wrong joy
Everyone knows your chit talking is wrong anyway
Try and learn who we have on the team first would help you
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Bryce Bray was one of the best freshman Gundy had as an OL in a while. Notice how I said âunless theyâre way betterâ. Notice how I also said âTheyâll never see the fieldâ. In fact, the only time I said a freshman on the OL would see the field is if weâre up by 30 or due to injuries.
That has been true ever since Bryce left the program back. Notice also how I never denied Bray played as a freshman (RS or not). It makes sense to play freshmen if youâre ahead by a bunch or injury stricken. The issue here is you ignore the topic and conversation altogether.
Instead, you go on the attack to defend Gundy, and you bring up other freshman from other positions when that wasnât part of the topic at all. Just because I make a statement about Gundyâs philosophy on football players doesnât automatically constitute an attack on his evaluations or thought process. Itâs just what heâs done for years.
This is exactly why I keep telling you that youâre too stupid to get the point. Youâre not wanting to listen or understand. Youâre only wanting to be heard. Therefore, you ignore the obvious and focus more on your gratification for self-validation. So Iâll say again. Next time, if you can, try to stay on topic 
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Your comment that unless they are way better
( which isnât saying much ) ? What does that say about your negative attitude towards Gundy and the players and then post in another article that if we donât go 12-2 something is bad wrong,? WTF ?
Thatâs a complete narcissist joy. Itâs tiring trying to figure out what you really want to say. Do you think every player we get is total crap ?
You bash everything from the qb to the kicker
So do you want a total change over to a new coaching staff , complete roll over of players or do you just want to biotch I told you you should start axe throwing, Iâm changing it to bird watching. Something to keep you off these boards
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Itâs no secret the offensive lines have been unstable and not consistent since Wickline left. Youâd have to not watch an OSU football game over the last 10 years to not be able to figure that out. Thereâs only four or five years in the last ten where the line has been decent. The only year weâve averaged 5 ypc since Wickline left was 2019. Thatâs it!!!
No, but itâs hard for me to gauge how good they are when experience is chosen over talent. Experience doesnât automatically constitute to becoming better. Look at Bowman. That dude is going into his 7th year of football, and so far we know he still doesnât know how to step up in the pocket to make a pass.
Nah, so far just the OC. Simply because I donât think players from the opposing team should be telling reporters on national television they figured out what the OSU OC was going to do before he even did it 
. Thats understandable if youâre playing Bama or Georgia, not South Bama though. Should probably be a little smarter with your offense when youâre the 15th highest paid OC in the country.
Ku just signed their guy for 7 million never winning 10 game. Msu had that guy for more then gundy.
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Joy one last time , when Wickline was here we had really good OL , we also had good backs. When he left he never produced the production he did here. Wasnât even close. Reason why he never stuck anywhere. Plus he wanted to be the OC âŚâŚso take it for what itâs worth
Playing USA did you think we would show every play In the playbook.? Sure they knew. We were running our base plays Thatâs why you donât understand football. You think we open up every play in the playbook in non conference. Get a grip
Gheez you just want to bash Gundy and the way he runs a program
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KU is also a worse program than OSU. Put two and two together. What has KU done since 2001 besides one Orange Bowl victory and one 10 win season?
What does that have to do with his consistency at OSU? I donât care what he did elsewhere. It was obvious at OSU he had a system in place and it was really good. Itâs taken us 10 years to put a system in place for the OL here before finding out what we have on the OL and how to execute it with the type of backs we have. That is inexcusable. My point and fact still remains. 5 ypc was almost always a given under Wickline. Weâve only accomplished that once since his departure.
You shouldnât have to show every play in the playbook to beat USA. Especially if youâre top ten in wins and as good as you claim we are. Get over yourself. I would think you would start giving the ball to your best players once you get down 16-0 at home to USA. Guess we donât.
You deserved to be bashed for such an atrocious and inexcusable event (like USA). If you want credit for some things, then you better be willing to endure criticism for blatant negligence as well.
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So ku being losers can spend 7 million and thats ok. We got 20 good years out of gundy.
How did the msu hire work out.
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When youâve been a loser for a long time and someone does something for you for the first time in 15 years then yes itâs fine. I wouldnât have any issue giving Gundy boatloads of money turning a bad program around. The issue here, that you donât realize, is that weâve had practically 20+ years of winning now. Itâs time to move onto bigger things than just a bowl game. Why would you reward more pay for the same results? Sure, adjust pay for inflation, but stop paying a dude as the 15th highest paid OC when heâs losing 78-10 to the likes of USA and UCF.
The only thing osu needs to move on from are crazy fan like you.
The only thing OSU needs to move on from in acting like they care about football and basketball with only one conference championship in the big 12 for each.
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You are phuking clueless joy. lol. You think Wicklone was a genius donât you. If he was why didnât his system work at Texas with far more talent Youâre wacko , simply donât know chit about football. Check google out , youâll see we are top ten in wins and wins against top 25. Check back with me when you do 
USA game was non conference game, where you see who can play and make plays. Sure give the ball to Ollie 30 times in the 3rd game you moron
You saw how crippled up he was at the end of the season. Your football knowledge is a minus
As @robert28 said it was okay for Kansas to pay 7 million for a losing program ? MSU. Paid more and fired their coach Gosh dam get some common sense, read that 101 on football. Donât ask your daddy heâs dumber than you
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You just proved Robertâs pointâŚ. See how that worked Gheez guy or whatever you call yourself in real life 
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You girls talk about ksu caring they have exactly zero nattyâs in all sports. So please stop talking like you know anything about care.
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So fire Gundy and get rid of Lutz before heâs coached a game. You have problems jug âŚ.,. Iâm thinking mental 
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It doesnât matter what I think of Wickline. Why? Because the results speak for themselves. He was the best OL coach we had at OSU, and until Dickey or anyone else can prove otherwise itâs a no brainer you imbecile. I know thinking gets tough for you, but at least try.
Yep, and when youâre down 23-0 thatâs when you stop and give the ball to proven players. Again, I know thinking is tough for you, but at least try.
MSU didnât fire their coach for poor performance. He was fired for allegations of sexual assault. Thatâs a huge difference. I canât say for sure he wouldâve been fired in the future. Because he may have turned it around after his second year. You donât have the slightest clue of what wouldâve happened. Maybe research why he was fired next time. For a third time here. I know thinking is tough for you, but at least try.