Well, there are exactly five coaches who have been at one school that long. So, of the other four, Troy Calhoun at Air Force, Kirk Ferentz at Iowa, and Kyle Whittingham had a 12 year stretch of not winning the conference (2009 to 2020) and his season was almost as disastrously disappointing as ours last year, so I’m going to count him since I’m sure you were saying the same thing last year because as much as you say you want change, you never do yourself. The other one is Dabo Swinney who has a couple nats in that timeline and owns the conference. So, 4 out of the 5.
Now, here’s some real homework for you. How many coaches have gotten hired and fired in that timeleine without ever winning one?
I love that Gundy has turned us into Iowa. I hope he stays another 10 years just so he can tell 18 year olds “ We are a championship program, we won the conference 23 years ago “
I love this because two of his titles came after a 12 year drought of no titles, so when you’re like, “Gundy has proved over the last 13 years that he can’t win another title!” but then you defend Whittingham, you are as usual arguing against yourself.
I’m not defending him because I don’t think a program can afford to go ten years without winning the conference if you’re actually trying to move the program forward. Especially after seeing what Arizona State did last year or what Baylor did in 2021. But obviously your happy watching every other team in the conference go from nothing to winning the conference while we go year after year just making the Texas bowl.
No, I’m just not a reactionary little snowflake who has a tantrum when things don’t go his way. There’s more to a team’s success than a coach for one thing. Firing the coach is the stupidest, laziest decision. It’s one thing if they’re obviously a bum, but Gundy is not that.
What changed at Utah? Whittingham went 12 years without a title then rattled off two. You clearly would’ve fired Whittingham prior to that. Maybe they would’ve won anyway, but, more than likely, they would’ve been set back by the transitions and probably not won. Clearly, coaching wasn’t the thing keeping them from a title for 12 years.
Nailed it. If you don’t think it’s possible to bring a Natty to Stilly in football, don’t come to Stilly. It’s that simple. That should be the mindset in every sport. If the goal isn’t to win, why even compete?
I’ll answer it this way, but my comment was based on any and all coaches, not just Gundy. I have yet to hear him, in a serious comment, express to the media anything remotely related to the goals I described earlier. Further, I have yet to see that expressed in his recent approach to coaching and recruiting.
Well after you would have been calling for his job, so you, as usual, miss the point.
Also, don’t call in your sad little lackeys. I collectively respect you all less now, you sad little man. Not doing anything to dispel my image of you as a snowflake, by the way. Did your parents do a terrible job or did you become pathetic in spite of them?
I didn’t miss the point, you’re willing to give Gundy as long as he wants to coach as long as he wins 6 games every year. You also think anyone that wants more than a crappy bowl is a threat to the whole football program. If you want to know what a snowflake is, just look in the mirror. I don’t see you mediocre Mike worshipers as a threat or something I need to try and stop. I just see y’all as stupid fans. Every team has them. OU has more than their share.
Champ, I’m nobody’s “sad little lackey”. I think for myself. And I’ve said since 2017 that Gundy needed to be gone. Bottom line is this: Snowflakes don’t like having their feelings hurt when confronted with the truth. The truth is this: 1 Big 12 championship in 20 seasons. I can name at least 10 current or former CFB coaches who could take Boone’s initial investment and given the university, athletic department, the donors and fanbase, more than what Gundy has in terms of conference titles.
Go ahead and construct your straw man. There are seasons when I’m fine with six wins if it’s a rebuild year or there’s significant adversity, but no one would be happy with that as the norm, and it’s not. We regularly exceed expectations. Your Whittingham self-own shows that good coaches still need circumstances to line up. He’s not the best coach in the world, but he’s better than most and gets the team in the mix.
We returned 19 starters from the 2024 season only to go 3-9 and winless in the conference. Yet, you still said Gundy “deserved another year”. Well…..didn’t that age well??? We went 1-11 . The result that we told you in advance would happen you advocated for. You can’t say we didn’t warn you.
And? Now we have a top transfer QB and one of the biggest G6 coaching hires. I also doubt we’d have gone 1-11 if he’d stuck around. We also lost our QB in the first game. It’s fine. It worked out fine.
You think our starting QB was going to get us to bowl eligibility (which is your standard)? What’s the point of even mentioning it if your answer is no?
. The result that we told you in advance would happen you advocated for. You can’t say we didn’t warn you.