Trip-Ups or Trends? Which of OSU's Warts against Arkansas Are Likely to Carry Over to Tulsa and Beyond?

I don’t know if we got the whole story on cutting Richmond loose? Was his units performance bad enough to warrant a dismissal ? Idk especially with Gundy’s record keeping people around . He was also an alum.

Some days I’d kill to be a fly on the wall around our athletics dept, sometimes though I think I’m better not knowing .

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There’s going to be nothing worse than whiffing on a 4 star player in college ball. You convinced some booster to cough up six figures and then you want to bench them? Waste of resources and you’ve damaged a donor relationship. You’re almost stuck just playing them.

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OSU would still be a 60’s era team without T. Boone, no matter the coach.

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While you are correct about OSU’s lack of 4-5 stars over the years the reasons are complicated, you make it sound so simple and it’s not. Also there has always been money involved in getting recruits the only difference now it’s front and center and everyone can hand out as much money as they want. Gundy the other day mentioned a recruit wanting 300K just to do an official visit. I’m glad OSU is turning those type of dudes down for a lot of reasons.

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Makes you wonder how We and the rest of the the college football
Landscape will look in 4 years and beyond .

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Evidently I do !! Cause he stayed here dummy
You don’t answer a question with. a question.
You didn’t have an answer so you do what you always do .,try to change course.
Look Texas tried to come in right before signing day to recruit him , he told them where were you 8 months ago Stay in the house dummy

Why aren’t you coaching if it’s so easy ?
Reason No 1 is you’re a narcissist and people, even kids don’t like narcissists

Who would have the success here without
T Boones money. Saban wouldn’t. Look Gundy gets kids that love football and playing it Kids that haven’t reached their peak and work their tails off to become 4 stars. Problem now is the big NIL teams can convince a kid with money. I’m confident Gundy can find kids in the portal every year that will shine. Last two years we got Leon and this year the kid from Nardos old school that are good players from D3 schools

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So you don’t think Saban would’ve been able to swing at least two conference titles in 20 years? Especially if Texas had sucked for a majority of his time in Stillwater? Then you want to tell everyone else they’re delusional? If anything Saban would’ve done more with Boone’s money. Saban doesn’t like mediocrity or “top ten in wins”. Saban wants to win championships. Conference championships to say the least.

I didn’t say it was easy. However, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that using the best running back in space after four quarters of football would be a good call :man_shrugging:.

That doesn’t automatically mean he’s happy. Maybe he’s hopeful like our average OSU fans here? Maybe he thinks with Texas and OU gone he can finally get a conference championship ring? I didn’t forget who his coaches are.

Look at how how long Saban coached before he won a CC

I asked why aren’t you coaching instead of being a mouth piece bashing Gundy
I didn’t ask for whatever you put for an excuse

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Assumptions, that’s all you have Nothing more. Most love OSU you don’t. You give excuses why you aren’t making 7 million
and ASSUME chit That isn’t a valid argument you moron. Evidently Ollie is happy here , he hasn’t made it known otherwise
You got owned

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I thought we were talking about the past not now. The whole landscape has shifted in a major way…

His very first year as a head coach, he won the conference championship. Are you really that stupid? You really shouldn’t be calling someone dumb.
You lie then you make statements like this .lol
You’re embarrassing yourself.

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We just need to get wins, doesn’t matter how it looks.

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OSU has never really had much recruiting success with 4 star recruits dating back to when I was at OSU FROM 76 to 81. It is not Gundy’s fault. Who wants to go to school in the middle of no where. Its not like Stillwater is this great place. Also, who would rather go to OSU than OU? Not very many.

And Gundy is not Barry Switzer who did not care about a players character.

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Kansas State won three conference titles within 20 years. They’re in the middle of nowhere and they don’t get 4 star recruits. In fact, on average they recruit worse than OSU. I know what you’re going to say “what about winning consistency???”.

I’m pointing to the fact they were good enough from 2003-2022 to win the conference three times. They’re in the same situation if not worse. Gundy is going into year 20 with one conference title. Why do we keep making excuses when other programs have been in our same situation or worse?

Nobody has ever been able to give a reasonable explanation for any of this. It’s just excuse after excuse every single year. You guys don’t want me to compare us to another compatible program because it becomes a thorn in the side of the average OSU fan.

Well my first couple of sentences are relevant to the past