Are you calling Toledo a P5 conference you imbecile ? His record at Michigan St was
6-5
6-6
7-5
6-6
9-2
Now that coaching isn’t it at a P5 school with way more resources than us
He goes to LSU and goes
8-4
10-3
8-5
13-1 NC
9-3
At a school that’s considered a BB not some cracker jacks box of a conference
We have tried telling these dunces that Stillwater isn’t a destination spot as far as outside of football. That’s why we get kids that love playing football and work.
You were there the same time as me 
Read above , again speculation. You do that often. His record at Michigan St wasn’t shiny for a school with big money
How do you know Michigan State had big money in the 90’s. I’d like to hear this one.
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LSU is not considered as a BB.
NOT BLUE BLOOD - STATUS: BORDERLINE
Penn State, Tennessee, LSU, Georgia, Florida State
https://mikefarrellsports.com/featured/college-football-blue-blood-status-check
Stop speculating and using your own opinions.
I just wish we could be as successful as K State in our conference title race 
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More would consider them a BB than some wacko wanting his name out there to see
Mike Farrell ??
How long did you have to search for that … lol
Doesn’t matter if they had money does it according to you. He’s the father of football right ? Again you keep answering a question with a question bill
Wow and you accuse bill of moving the goal post. You said,
Now, how long did Saban coach before he won a CC? You can cheat and go look it up but I’ll bet you just don’t answer.
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Big difference in a P5 or FCS school jug Use your head if you have one Do I have to specify everything for you
It is all luck and schedule. OSU has been near the top of the conference most years in Gundy’s tenure. You can’t say that about K-State.
According to your own standard (more wins than losses) he’s been successful everywhere he’s been in college football. So why is Gundy good enough for your standard and Saban isn’t?
And yet teams that haven’t keep proving they can rebuild to win the conference.
Did I say he wasn’t ? Greatest coach all time. Like 7 NC so I guess he is. Again you keep answering a question with a question 
When you don’t have an answer that’s what you do
Ks does not have to compete with OU for recruiting. Plus, we are consistently at the top of the conference, K State cant say that.
Dont know what the subject is here but here is the deal. Next week we play Utah in football. All the blathering idiocy isn’t going to change what happens in that game. I only wish that all you all purported OSU fans come together and support our team. Thank you, you all are the best.
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You’re the one that decided to critique Saban and said he wouldn’t do the same in Stillwater.
- You don’t know that.
- He never had a losing season in college.
- By your own standard he’s doing what any good coach would do. Which is more winning than losing.
Don’t try to pin this back on any of us. You brought it up and apply a double standard to Saban with Gundy. That’s hypocrisy at its finest.
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K State recruits worse than us as I’ve mentioned before. So how come a program that’s in the same situation as us can win the conference three times?
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I think you’re insane. You talk about something that was never said … lol I put Sabans record up at Michigan St and LSU , both have more resources than us. He was normal except the NC at LSU who most consider a BB but you bring up some yahoo that said marginal. Either way you got proved wrong, now go cry some more
I don’t see you providing any source? Go cope now.
It’s people that know football not some ignoramus that just runs his mouth how he would coach. Go earn 7 million with your ignorant chit … lol. Move along. No one likes you and no one wants you here