Trip-Ups or Trends? Which of OSU's Warts against Arkansas Are Likely to Carry Over to Tulsa and Beyond?

He probably knows more than you.

They didn’t rate HS kids like that then. :joy: Stilly is a nice college town. Why didn’t you go to Abnorman instead? You sound like an undercover LandSquatter!

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OU’s campus is ugly. It’s jammed up right in the middle of Norman. Norman itself is a sty with streets designed by a monkey. OSU is a pretty, open campus.

However, Norman is a bigger town with more activities and close to OKC. You can’t get anywhere from Stillwater, so I get what he’s saying. I wasn’t a partier. I was there for school, and I loved it. Top tier athletes aren’t at college for school. They don’t care what the school looks like, how good it is academically. They aren’t even on campus that much. They take online classes, miss class and have tutors, take transferable courses offsite, etc. I don’t think they have any real affinity with the school outside of the athletic facilities, fans, and coaches.

I don’t find there to be a contradiction to both love OSU and Stillwater, but think that many athletes would rather be elsewhere, all things being equal.

I think a lot of that is the touted “Cowboy Culture”. Guys there primarily and only to play football, no distractions, often small town guys who are interested in hunting and fishing for fun instead of drinking and trolling for girls.

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You realize, I would hope, playing football is a full-time gig. They ain’t got much time to be going to OKC, which is BLEH IMO. What’s so great about it, what can kids do there? What people like you, who hold that kind of opinion, don’t realize is the best unis are in college towns. What’s there that’s so great to do in places like Ann Arbor, Oxford, Tuscaloosa, Baton Rouge, Notre Dame, Tallahassee, Knoxville, Columbia, etc???

Sure, there are a lot of college towns with not a lot going on. Although most of those places you named are still bigger than Stillwater. Tallahassee’s just a quick drive to the gulf coast and four or five times bigger than Stillwater. But yes, a place like Tuscaloosa also had a very serious-minded football-focused attitude. It’s no secret that a big part of why Sabab quit was the NIL money being a distraction to that.

Even full-time gigs have downtime.

What’s there to do in OKC?!?! We got concerts and events, the Thunder, clubs (if you’re into that), it’s got a great food scene, basic city amenities, what do you want?

Do you have a Ferris wheel from Venice beach that’s been reconstructed near an okc river that runs less than half the days because it’s too windy ?

Maybe!

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It certainly wasn’t that way back in the late 70’s. Example Terry Miller was in a couple of classes of mine, actually sat right next to him in both while he did miss some he was probably there more than 50% of the time. Times have changes though and not sure if it has been for the best or not.

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So for you it’s just bigger is better, lol. That’s why big cities are killing it w/ championships in football like Athens and Tuscaloosa. Great food scene in OKC? That’s funny!

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Bigger is going to have more variety of activities and things to do. That’s just how it is. I already said there are small towns succeeding because it’s the business of football first there. If you’re going to Georgia and Alabama, you’re trying to make football your career. It’s not that you can’t get there from other schools, but obviously, they’re NFL factories there.

I don’t know why you’re trying to bag on OKC and the cuisine man. There are no shortage of articles being written about the emerging food scene here. Chefs are starting to gravitate back to their home states and away from the traditional food meccas. This has been the recent trend. You have every type of cuisine here and accomplished chefs making it. It’s not like it’s Tulsa.

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When I was at OSU from 76 to 81, I saw players like the great Terry Miller at bars at night. You are right, players dont have a lot of time outside of class and practice but they do like women and they get out

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We were at OSU at the same time. I use to see Terry Miller out at Pistol Pattys and the like. What a great 1/2 back he was. He should have won the Heisman over Earl Campbell.

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It’s a huge difference nowadays with “voluntary” weightlifting, meetings, watching film, etc.

Earl was bad asz but I was biased to Terry I was pulling for him. Any other year he wins it
I was there those years myself

I could get on board with that. TM had some back issues in his playing days so he was probably never at 100% physically.

I can agree here as well. I didn’t see him play much in college but boy howdy some of those games playing for the houston oilers were unbelievable

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Yes he was !!! He was almost the same in college. I met him at club near Houston back a long time ago when he had been out of pro ball. He was on crutches then, they say he can hardly walk now

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