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Just FYI, I know everyone is bent out of shape about Gundy not performing now at the level he was in 2010-2011 (as a quick reminder, he would have had another double digit win season last year if not for game limitations, we now consider those disappointing because of him), but think about it on a national scale for a minute. Other than OU, Alabama, Clemson, or Ohio state, name one other program in the United States of America that has sustained yearly dominant success without any sort of dropoff?
I’ll save you some time, there aren’t any. While it is perfectly fine to want him gone (and if I’m being honest, I’m riding the middle of the two sides), We can’t expect OSU to be more successful than the largest blue blood powerhouses in the nation. That isn’t how football has ever worked in the past, and I’d be very pleasantly surprised if Gundy was somehow magically the first man to solve that unsolvable riddle. It’s basically close to impossible for schools of our stature.
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We can also all agree that Gundy has definitely been much more conservative the past half decade or so. But have any of us considered that might be due to the personnel he has on hand? In some situations he probably feels like he has to do things more conservatively. It’d be like a bball team going from having 4-5 perimeter shooters to having none. As fun as seeing a bunch of 3’s go in was for fans, as a coach you don’t keep telling your new guys to shoot em if no one on your team can shoot. That’s probably what’s going on here. Part of that is recruiting issues, but at a certain point you can pitch as hard as you want and the kids still might not come. Just the way things go.
¿Que?
He must not know.
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NIL is going to make the challenge of contending for national championships even more difficult. WAY more difficult.
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Clemson and Auburn both did it. Clemson isn’t on Alabama or Ohio State or OU’s level of blue-blood dominance historically, but they are what I call “new money”. They struck gold w/ Dabo (love him or hate him). Auburn has been to the mountaintop once w/ Cam Newton. With a MUCH better record vs Bama who is inarguably more dominant than OU. I know some can’t stand to take the risk because they have much more to lose than me, but I just can’t stand the thought of NOT taking it. Im willing to risk a portion of what little I have. I’d be thrilled to write a small check towards the buyout if it restores some semblance of Hope in the trajectory of the program.
What’d I do now?
@travis5266, did you ever see this data-based analysis of program success over time for a description of how rare Clemson’s rise has been?
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It’s a Gulf of Mex oil spill joke
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Odds are very low we ever win a title in football. Astronomically low.
But we are a basketball school.
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Kansas is a basketball school. We are an athletics school.
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I listed Clemson as one of the 4. Auburn is 11th nationally in total revenue. Oklahoma state in comparison is 45th. Not a great comparison. Now look at teams between 25-50 in total revenue and name one single school in that entire list that has done more than OSU. Oregon is about the only one that can say they have. I’d argue no one else in that range has come close to OSU over the past 15ish years. OSU isn’t close to the top in terms of success annually, but I’d argue there aren’t many schools in the country that have done more with what they have available than the pokes.
Actually, I would love to see someone compare the total revenue list to total wins list over the past 13 years and see if anyone in the nation has a larger jump between the two than OSU. I bet they are top 5 easily, maybe top 3.
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Pretty much sums it up.
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Never seen it. I’d be glad to read it though. Even if it completely devalues my statements. 
What’s the vibe for tomorrow?
- Oklahoma State Wins
- Oklahoma State Embarrasses Boise State
- Oklahoma State Loses
- Oklahoma State Gets Embarrassed
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I mean the bottom line here is… Gundy “underperforms” for what, two-three years or so? So we fire him as a stepping stone school. We fire the winningest coach in the history of the school for just a couple down years…
Nobody but @travis5266 himself is going to take that job. Let alone any worth a ■■■■ coaching.