And engineers and physicians are not.
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Yeah, I canāt finish all that. Not really sure I can even tell what Robert is trying to say most of the time. I hate that fans of other schools might peruse the free boards and think that itās representative of our fanbase.
Yikes.
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Not as important as me! 
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Haha thatās true! Though I do know a few folks with fellowships/assistantships that make more than some of my colleagues.
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I admit I am not a graphic designer but I am fascinated by folks who are talented with logos. I like the simplestic nature of the flame logo. However, the flame to the left seemed a bit harsh and looks like something is on fire. I suppose you could argue ābeing on fire for Godā (a positive connotation) but that flame looked a bit ominous ā¦ more like a hell-like fire than a light of the earth God fire 
Sorry, that sounds mean which it isnāt meant to be, but it when I saw the color/design thatās what I thought ofā¦shame on me. Maybe if you changed the color to not be two-tone or to only use the orange color? The red color is what is making it look more harsh IMHO. And thatās not just because Iām a OkState fan, LOL
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Can you imagine someone from Wisconsin stumbling across the free board and trying to decipher it. 
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Oh no, itās supposed to be a modern take on the cross & flame of UMC.That flame represents the flame of Pentecost (when the apostles meet and the Holy Spirit appears as a flame over their heads & they speak in a multitude of languages, then they go share the good news all over the world.)
Our pastors are attached to the logo but also know we need to have a local brand.
But this is great feedback because it means if you arenāt familiar with UMC it can be weird. So thank you!!!
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I admit Iām not familiar with UMC - sorry. I attend a non-denominational Christian church. Sounds like you should keep the design since itās important to your denomination identity and ignore my dumb attempt to help! Told ya I was bad at logos
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No maāam! Do not apologize at all. Iām not good at this either. I can explain it and story it easilyā¦ but I want it to be intuitively understood and thatās really a special talent. I actually think we probably need to pay an agency. 
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I know about the flame but never seen one look like that
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Isnāt UMC the largest demonination in the country?
Didnāt UMC just divorce itself?
I think itās Southern Baptist and UMC is second.
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@lmand this is what I had seen before for the flame (although again, Iāve never attended a UMC). I think you said yours is an updated version. I just hadnāt seen your version before. If thatās the new version, you should stick with it.
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Yes itās going through a schism. I wish theyād hurry it up too. Itās been close to a decade
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Yep, you got your Boston Aves and you got your Asburys.
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Donāt eat anything on your way out!
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