How much is the mile of cars in Norman going to pay to license ou players?
That’s going to have an insane impact in recruiting. Hey 5 star, Fowler Honda in the mile cars is offering a 3yr/450k likeness deal.
Where/how Fowler gets the money gets really tough to follow. Throw in the ways you can use bitcoin and blockchain to hide money it gets even worse.
College football is better off leaving the ncaa. Going to 4 16 team conferences, pooling the money, having a salary cap, 3 or 4 year contracts, and the death penalty for teams that cheat. If bama can get a guy to sign for less, he signs for less. Endorsements can are a side deal for the athlete unrelated to his contract.
16 team playoff is simple. Everyone goes to pods, 2 rounds of CC, rose bowl is big 10 winner vs pac-12, sugar is big 12/acc versus sec. wow I even preserved tradition.
Posted something similar about a month ago in random thoughts. Had this discussion with a friend of mine who follows cfb and recruiting in general much closer than I do, or ever have, he said it couldn’t work, I pointed out that this is already in use for wrestling and baseball.
Didn’t uo lose a qb for this, really what this does is make boosters (ahem), people who donate philanthropically, to a school have even more power. It’s one thing if Chuba Hubbard the Soph/Jr Doak Walker candidate is selling old mother Hubbard cookies, but what’s to stop Jerry the used car guy from signing a recruit to a deal for his norman based dealership if he agrees to go to ou.
That’s the slope that could cause everyone to slide down and ultimately end college athletics as we know it.
Out of the box: college can pay a kid to come to school but they have a salary cap
DE #1 gets a 700k contract from which he pays for school and everything else. DE # 7 gets $90k because he’s not worth as much do away with scholarships and end the charade of amateurism.
Now you have a, mostly, free market and by instituting a cap you level the playing field.
Yeah I think I said it in another thread but in an effort to make it better and more fair for the athletes, they’re going to end up taking away a ton of opportunities because a school like OSU isn’t going to be able to compete and will quit trying. And there are way more OSU’s out there than there are OU’s and Alabama’s.
I don’t disagree, this approach would make the athlete an employee the schools by virtue of participation in the association could institute outside employment rules with the cau (college athletes union) those rules could be bracketed by a tier of schools tier 1 gets a max $120m salary cap for all sports and can use up to 70% on fb. tier 2 $80M and so on until you get to tier 5 or whatever the lowest tier is
Tier 2 schools could decide to participate with tier 1 on a sport by sport basis.
Granted title IX would be the gremlin in the machine but in reality this is how everything but football and basketball work already, best recruits get the most scholarship $.
If you hold the line on the cap and you ban outside employment, just as many jobs already do, you should be able to establish 4-5 tiers and instead of it being a scholarship it’s salary, part of your job requirement is maintaining academic eligibility.
You just might save college athletics and take a step towards leveling the playing field between the haves and have nots.
It has nothing to do with endowment or how much revenue the athletic department brings in (which is about 8th in the Big 12, by the way…)
It’s everything to do with outside support of the athletic department and who would be willing to pay OSU players to use their likeness. If you think that Eskimo Joe’s can compete with the 25 car dealerships in Norman, then I have a bridge to sell you. And before you say “well there’s just as much support in Tulsa and OKC for OSU as there is for OU.” I would need proof of that… because right now if you look at what Learfield is able to bring in for OSU and what it’s able to bring in for OU, it’s not even close. Riverwind Casino would have the entire starting lineup for every OU sport in their casino three nights a week to sign autographs. Is that crappy casino in Newkirk going to do the same for OSU? I highly doubt it. Will the ag supply companies pay as much as the sporting goods store in Edmond? No… and, news flash, the ag supply stores like Yellowhouse spend a lot more on suites for OU events than they do OSU events.
OSU would fall way behind Arkansas, Kansas, TCU and SMU with this deal if it’s a free for all… and it’s really not that hard to see.
If you want proof then look at traffic counts on 412, I don’t know. But you can look on people’s cars and know this town is orange. OU might make is 50/50 but if so it’s an OSU lean.
Not to disparage fandom but fans are a small % of the revenue base for a p5 cfb team. I think I saw OSU ticket revenue (not profit) was around $15M while that’s nothing to sneeze at it’s dwarfed by the other revenue streams. Unless the good people of Tulsa are writing checks beyond their tickets then the color of their shirt is not highly important in the grand scheme.
OSU’s endowment, assuming it is a B$, would rank close to 200 or worse, endowments are the realm of the academia’s Harvard Yale MIT if endowments is the game you are playing you will lose.
A hard salary cap for athletes and expenditures would at least give the top 70 or so schools a punchers chance, what’s happening now will, if left unchecked, be the next nail in an increasingly closing coffin of college athletics/ amateurism.
Perhaps the real answer is to eliminate college sports and have minor leagues and Olympic development centers. Leave college for students and make them pay for it or go to a trade school. That’s the road we’re on and it’s hard to argue it’s wrong.
Eskimo Joe’s isn’t the only business in Stillwater, Lee, don’t be disingenuous. Stillwater has its own “mile of cars” or whatever the hell you want to call it.
Stillwater Designs could market its woofers on a national basis, maybe using our star defensive tackle(s) we might have at any given point…
Mercury Marine (if they’re still there) could market its boats using our guys.
And yes, Tulsa is an OSU lean, or at least seems that way. There are some demographic aspects that contribute to that, not to mention that OSU-Tulsa and the College of Osteopathic Medicine have a more prominent place than OU’s crappy Tulsa campus does.
Here is the thing - people still remember SMU getting caught giving high schoolers cars and clearly NCAA Basketball still has its own issues as we have seen in the FBI investigation. So I think there is a ton of fear but the truth is we don’t really know what to expect.
But once this all becomes legal, its going to get really interesting how much donors are willing to pay. Lets say an OSU donor paid Wes Lunt 100K to come to OSU. He was average and then transferred. Lets say that same donor then paid Nick Starkel 110K to stay committed to OSU. His career was average at best. That donor is 200K in the hole and has basically nothing to show for it. Is he just going to keep doing this every year? Maybe… But I don’t know (I wouldn’t)…
Where it all gets interesting is the apparel companies. They have more money than all the donors combined. If they can pay High Schoolers and then direct them to certain schools that they sponsor in return for a contractual commitment from that high schooler, then this could go dark real quick. Recruiting wouldn’t matter and NCAA basketball/football would change forever.
The first few years of this though will be dramatic I think but my guess is that after a couple years it will simmer down and it will be something we don’t talk about or even really know about.
Rivals just did a post about 10 players who would’ve cashed in on the new image & likeness rules. 4 of them were from non-blueblood schools (Beasley @ KState, Rose @ Memphis, Simmons @ LSU, Trae @ OU).
Slightly shocked only 60% of their choices went to blue-blood schools. Take that as you will, but I personally expected it to be a little higher.
Talked with someone at OSU today, and the feeling I get is not only that OSU is absolutely still in the picture for Cade Cunningham, but that OSU believes it is the frontrunner. In fact, the source I talked to believes it could be a matter of days before OSU gets good news.